Russian Armed Forces

[seaspear]

Re the discussions, It would be interesting to find out who they agreed were other terrorists in the region because of Russias bombing of Assads opponents as terrorists, who have been supported with weapons by the U.S .

[xav]

Russia to Go Ahead With Lavina Amphibious Assault Ship Project, Preliminary Design Completed

The Krylov State Research Center completed the preliminary design of the versatile amphibious assault ship for the Russian Navy, the center’s executive director, Mikhail Zagorodnikov, told TASS on Thursday. He also said there is "no doubt" the ship will be developped. The Lavina (Avalanche) project was first unveiled during the ARMY-2015 defense exhibiton. "Krylov Central Scientific Research Institute is developing an alternative to the two Mistral LHDs. Avalanche will have a displacement of 24,000 tons, even more than the French ship" - a spokesman said at the time.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=3335

[2HeadsBetter]

Ooops:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35106935

[SKB]

Vladimir Putin is immortal.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/is-vladimir-p ... 03537.html

[xav]

2 New Project 22800 Corvettes Uragan & Typhoon Laid Down by Pella Shipyard for Russian Navy

Two new Project 22800 guided missile corvettes were laid down for the Russian Navy by the Pella Shipyard in St. Petersburg on December 24th, TASS reported from the shipyard on Thursday. According to the shipyard’s spokesperson, the lead ship, the Uragan, is to be commissioned by the Russian Navy in December 2017 and the first production ship, the Typhoon, in 2018.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=3401

[ArmChairCivvy]

Howabout the four that could not be launched as the gas turbines had been sourced from Ukraine?
- I think some were sold to India, who were in a better position to do alternative sourcing?

[xav]

Are you talking about the Krivak frigates to India or the Tarantul "corvettes" to Vietnam ?

Project 22800 Corvettes to be Fitted with Pantsir-M Naval Variant of Pantsir-S1 Air Defense System

Project 22800 corvettes will in the future be armed with ship-based air defense systems, specifically, Pantsir-M air defense missile/gun system, Vice-Admiral Victor Barsuk, Russian Navy Deputy Commander for armaments, said.

"The ship is highly upgradable and in the future will be outfitted with ship-based air defense systems like Pantsir-M," Barsuk specified.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=3407

Russian Navy Future Frigate Project 22350 Admiral Gorshkov Completed 1st Phase of Trials

The Project 22350 frigate Admiral Gorshkov passed the first stage of its White Sea tests, Capt. 2nd Rank Andrei Luzik, acting chief, press office, Northern Fleet, told journalists on Friday. "The tests have taken place at naval training areas of the Northern Fleet in the White Sea and Arkhangelsk Region," he added.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=3405

Russian Navy New Mine Countermeasures Vessel Project 12700 Alexander Obukhov in Sea Trials

Project 12700 Alexander Obukhov lead mine countermeasures vessel (MCMV) has started technical trials, an official of the Medium Neva Shipyard, the manufacturer of the ship /incorporated by United Shipbuilding Corporation, USC (OSK)/ told the TASS correspondent.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=3403

[xav]

I'll believe it when...

Russia's OSK Shipyard to Have Technological Capabilities to Build Aircraft Carriers from 2019

The United Shipbuilding Corporation (OSK) will have the technological capabilities to build helicopter carriers and aircraft carriers starting from early 2019, OSK Director General Alexei Rakhmanov has told the Russia 24 TV broadcaster in an interview. "We will be prepared for helicopter carrier construction just like we are prepared for building aircraft carriers," he said.

"Speaking of the technological capabilities of aircraft carrier construction, we expect them, most probably, by early 2019 once the planned modernization has been completed. This will afford us a degree of preparedness enabling us to build superships, be them civil or military," Rakhmanov added.
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He stressed that the manufacturer "has made a lot of efforts to fulfil as much of its defense procurement program as possible", but has been unable to fulfil 100% of it for a number of reasons. "First of all, this is due to a rather big number of lead ships we have to build. They are complex products, and much development work has to be performed first before they are built," he added.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=3411

Russia's shipbuilding is in complicated situation (to say the least) with tons of new project running way late:
- Lada/Amur (677) SSKs
- Gorshkov frigate which head of class was laid down over 10 years ago
- The known issue of gaz turbines supply had the consequence of putting Project 11356 Grigorovich class frigates on hold
- Ivan Gren head of class (amphibious vessel) took over 10 years and still ongoing

And corvette sized vessel: A huge mess with several classes launched at the same time but all with more or less the same mission sets... each class having sub-classes which seems to change every year etc...

The only project that seem to do OK are based on existing designs:
- Project 636 Kilo SSK
- Project 11356 Grigorovich (Talwar) Frigates before the gas turbine issues
- Project 21631 Buyan corvettes
- And the new SSBN strategic fleet which seem to have priority nowadays (Borei program going smoothly and Bulava issues appear solved).

[ArmChairCivvy]

I am sure the Project 12700 (that you posted a photo of, above) will go OK.

It seems to have a good pedigree:
http://read.ru/id/3263789/

Just compare the images.

[~UNiOnJaCk~]

^^ Building a carrier shaped hull, sure, they could probably do that. Building anything close to par with the likes of the QE/PoW or the Nimitz/GRFs??? Yeah, colour me sceptical. Far more innovation goes in to building a capable carrier than simply having a ship that can launch and recover aircraft. From the galleys and accommodation to the walkways and storage spaces, there is a lot more that goes in to the carrier 'capability' equation than meets the eye - as we have found out through our own process.

Fortunately, we had both the necessary prior expertise, strategic outlook and design/engineering base to pull off one of the most capable ships of their kind to ever exist - a condition that will likely endure throughout the service lives of the CVFs. Given the issues that Xav quite rightly brings up with Russia’s ongoing naval investment projects however (yards working to capacity being one of the most pressing concerns), combined with the project complexities i have just mentioned, I very much doubt they have the ability to seriously re-enter the carrier game (at a competitive level against the likes of the CVF/Nimitz/GRF), nor am I entirely convinced of their need to either. Moreover, do they have the necessary experience to operate such an ambitious vessel? I tend to doubt it.

[xav]

Video: Russian Navy Land Based Ski-Jump for MiG-29K/KUB Now Operational

Russian naval aviation pilots have started training on the MiG-29K/KUB (NATO reporting name: Fulcrum-D) multipurpose fighter jets at the 859th Naval Aviation Training Center. Located near the city of Yeysk [in the Krasnodar Territory in southwest Russia] the facility just got fitted with a land based ski-jump to train Russian pilots in aircraft carrier operations.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=3427

[2HeadsBetter]

That's a long take off run for a plane with no stores, but I guess it's early days yet.

[ArmChairCivvy]

India funded the K development for Mig29; I wonder which country will have them fully operational first?

[ArmChairCivvy]

Russian rearmament has kept to its growth path. The GDP hasn't and will this year be half of its 2013 peak of $2.15 trillion.

All the money is being confiscated by the central gvmnt: "allowed the ruble to lose half of its value compared to the U.S. dollar, and offset the Dutch disease that had ailed the country since 2005.
Low oil prices in 2015 ravaged all of Russia’s key economic indicators. Demand for durable goods shrank by almost half, imports plummeted 35 percent"

Handy: receive only half of your income (in dollars) but keep the same number of roubles coming to the state coffers, to cover expenditure.


Read more at: http://carnegie.ru/commentary/2016/01/0 ... -2016/ioik

My guess: make the money last to the next presidential elections (2018) regardless of what it will cost the economy in the long term. The rest of the G8 did Russia a favour by ousting them from the group. Nobody notices that they have shrunk to n:o 15 in the global economies ranking by now.

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[Halidon]

Well they're also cutting total expenditures by 10%, so I'd say they are feeling the pinch but Vlad is still determined to see through as much modernization as possible.

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[seaspear]

So which voting demagraphic is Vladimir appealing to with his topless pics

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[~UNiOnJaCk~]

He's attempting to spend his way out of trouble. As long as he does a few more topless photoshoots, wrestling bears for salmon or such, he will remain popular at home.

Sort of, more like it is coming at the expense of other areas it would seem, including draining their piggy bank. As a major tool of both his own popularity and a critical instrument of blunt foreign policy style, military budgets will be the last thing Putin thinks of cutting.

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[GastonGlocker]

The population is shrinking, women of childbearing age are declining and 'tractor juice' alcoholism is still rife.
I think he's in a hurry to expand upon territory and resources while he has a force powerful enough.

Based on (somewhat dated) data projections on indigenous population growth in Russia, I'd say you are on to something.

[ArmChairCivvy]

The stats re: population/ longevity were already improving, but the way public finances are being driven off the edge of a cliff cannot mean anything but a reversal of that.BTW: Russia has had a healthy net immigration (in truth, returning ethnic Russians) but the std of living gap with neighbours is going to reverse/ widen, depending on the comparison, and plug that flow, too.

Sochi, as a personal and prestige project cost 50 bn. As, once again, in the run up to it, oil price plummeted, it became necessary to tap into state pension fund (and ask friendly oligarchs for contributions; favour of course to be returned) and I suspect another tapping of that fund might already be in process. It is widely speculated that pensions will be cut (only) after the Presidential elections, and that is not good news as 20m Russians already (officially!) live below the poverty line, many of them pensioners.

It is not worth believing every malicious bit, though. Abkhasia has been a political entity in that location for 3000 years,and they see Georgia as the oppressor (not Russia). True independence for such a small entity would be ideal, but probably not feasible... so choosing the lesser of two evils, that's how they see it.

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