Boeing E-7 Wedgetail (RAF)

Contains threads on Royal Air Force equipment of the past, present and future.
Jdam
Senior Member
Posts: 1087
Joined: 09 May 2015, 22:26
United Kingdom

Re: Boeing E-7 Wedgetail (RAF)

Post by Jdam »

I think this is one of the more likely things to happen in the next defense review, its an easy win and free from criticism as they were not the ones to cancel the last 2.

I am more worried that we haven't seen anything about them in 18 months, not the best look when you are trying to get more air frames out of the treasury.

new guy
Senior Member
Posts: 1718
Joined: 18 Apr 2023, 01:53
United Kingdom

Re: Boeing E-7 Wedgetail (RAF)

Post by new guy »

BB85 wrote: 06 Jul 2024, 18:53 I wonder what the chances are of the UK ordering the final 2 airframes as part of the next defense review. Cutting airframes when the 5 radars have already been ordered is beyond moronic. You would think it would have been better value for money to complete the contract for the 5 and sell the final 2 back to Nato.
Know full well though that boeing would charge full price, if not more, for those two airframes to be added.

That is 4+ Globaleye's for the same price

Image
These users liked the author new guy for the post:
Dahedd

User avatar
Pseudo
Senior Member
Posts: 1795
Joined: 30 Apr 2015, 21:37
Tuvalu

Re: Boeing E-7 Wedgetail (RAF)

Post by Pseudo »

new guy wrote: 06 Jul 2024, 20:28
BB85 wrote: 06 Jul 2024, 18:53 I wonder what the chances are of the UK ordering the final 2 airframes as part of the next defense review. Cutting airframes when the 5 radars have already been ordered is beyond moronic. You would think it would have been better value for money to complete the contract for the 5 and sell the final 2 back to Nato.
Know full well though that boeing would charge full price, if not more, for those two airframes to be added.

That is 4+ Globaleye's for the same price

Image
Sure, but then you've got to pay for the operating costs of those Globaleye that will need just as much new infrastructure as the personnel as the Wedgetail.

User avatar
Ianmb17
Member
Posts: 155
Joined: 01 May 2015, 21:33
United Kingdom

Re: Boeing E-7 Wedgetail (RAF)

Post by Ianmb17 »

New wedgetail facility not far off
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
These users liked the author Ianmb17 for the post (total 2):
wargame_insomniacserge750

Mercator
Member
Posts: 706
Joined: 06 May 2015, 02:10
Contact:
Australia

Re: Boeing E-7 Wedgetail (RAF)

Post by Mercator »

Ultimately, Boeing sees total sales of about 50-70 Wedgetails, including the Air Force’s planned program of record as well as other E-7 orders that have been booked or delivered, Gillian said.
[US] Air Force strikes deal with Boeing for E-7 Wedgetail
https://breakingdefense.com/2024/07/air ... wedgetail/
These users liked the author Mercator for the post (total 2):
Ron5serge750

Jdam
Senior Member
Posts: 1087
Joined: 09 May 2015, 22:26
United Kingdom

Re: Boeing E-7 Wedgetail (RAF)

Post by Jdam »

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/uk-may- ... aft-fleet/

Lets hope nothing else needs to be dropped for it.
These users liked the author Jdam for the post:
wargame_insomniac

R686
Senior Member
Posts: 2353
Joined: 28 May 2015, 02:43
Australia

Re: Boeing E-7 Wedgetail (RAF)

Post by R686 »

Jdam wrote: 24 Jul 2024, 15:44 https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/uk-may- ... aft-fleet/

Lets hope nothing else needs to be dropped for it.

Yes that’s the devil in the detail

Mercator
Member
Posts: 706
Joined: 06 May 2015, 02:10
Contact:
Australia

Re: Boeing E-7 Wedgetail (RAF)

Post by Mercator »

These users liked the author Mercator for the post (total 7):
bobpJdamwargame_insomniacRon5serge750R686Scimitar54

new guy
Senior Member
Posts: 1718
Joined: 18 Apr 2023, 01:53
United Kingdom

Re: Boeing E-7 Wedgetail (RAF)

Post by new guy »


new guy
Senior Member
Posts: 1718
Joined: 18 Apr 2023, 01:53
United Kingdom

Re: Boeing E-7 Wedgetail (RAF)

Post by new guy »

These users liked the author new guy for the post:
Ron5

Jdam
Senior Member
Posts: 1087
Joined: 09 May 2015, 22:26
United Kingdom

Re: Boeing E-7 Wedgetail (RAF)

Post by Jdam »

It so good to see the first E-7 take to the skies but it feels like it taken so long to get here.
These users liked the author Jdam for the post (total 2):
wargame_insomniacJensy

User avatar
Jensy
Moderator
Posts: 1150
Joined: 05 Aug 2016, 19:44
United Kingdom

Re: Boeing E-7 Wedgetail (RAF)

Post by Jensy »

We move one step closer to being the first E-3 Sentry operator to transition to Wedgetail.

These users liked the author Jensy for the post (total 3):
Jdamwargame_insomniacRon5
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!" - Dr. Strangelove (1964)

new guy
Senior Member
Posts: 1718
Joined: 18 Apr 2023, 01:53
United Kingdom

Re: Boeing E-7 Wedgetail (RAF)

Post by new guy »

The aircraft is expected to transfer to a paint facility to receive its RAF colour scheme later this Autumn, following more test and evaluation flights.

There have been recent reports that the RAF has prepared, or is preparing a business case for a full fleet of seven Wedgetails, but few would expect this to ‘survive contact’ with the Treasury.
It would be in the MOD's best interest to pump out as many as we can before it ends - Including NATO E-7's.

https://aerospaceglobalnews.com/news/uk ... -progress/

Ron5
Donator
Posts: 7651
Joined: 05 May 2015, 21:42
United States of America

Re: Boeing E-7 Wedgetail (RAF)

Post by Ron5 »

Stories of GCAP being its own AWACS don't help.

Jdam
Senior Member
Posts: 1087
Joined: 09 May 2015, 22:26
United Kingdom

Re: Boeing E-7 Wedgetail (RAF)

Post by Jdam »

new guy wrote: 22 Sep 2024, 11:31
There have been recent reports that the RAF has prepared, or is preparing a business case for a full fleet of seven Wedgetails, but few would expect this to ‘survive contact’ with the Treasury.
Asking for a fleet of 7 sounds like negotiating tactics to get the 5 they originally wanted.
These users liked the author Jdam for the post (total 4):
CaribbeanPhil Sayerswargame_insomniacAnthony58

bobp
Senior Member
Posts: 2780
Joined: 06 May 2015, 07:52
United Kingdom

Re: Boeing E-7 Wedgetail (RAF)

Post by bobp »

1st wedgetail arrives at Southend Airport for a lick of paint...

https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/246225 ... ded-today/
These users liked the author bobp for the post (total 3):
JdamRon5Jensy

User avatar
AndyC
Member
Posts: 181
Joined: 11 Dec 2015, 10:37
United Kingdom

Re: Boeing E-7 Wedgetail (RAF)

Post by AndyC »

We all know that three is nowhere near enough E-7's to cover the whole of the UK, let alone take part in any internatonal deployments!

Anyone, who's not totally biased, couldn't possibly back three.

But, equally because the previous order was five it would be just too psychologically humiliating to go back to five.

Frankly, ordering four is only slightly better than three, so that's also a non-starter.

And it won't be seven because that looks like total capitulaton.

To me it looks like six is the magic number!

But, then again, maybe the least problematic solution would be to transfer the three on order to the European NATO fleet, together with a suitable contribution.

Jdam
Senior Member
Posts: 1087
Joined: 09 May 2015, 22:26
United Kingdom

Re: Boeing E-7 Wedgetail (RAF)

Post by Jdam »



No more need for CGI renders.
These users liked the author Jdam for the post (total 5):
wargame_insomniacbobpserge750Anthony58Ron5


new guy
Senior Member
Posts: 1718
Joined: 18 Apr 2023, 01:53
United Kingdom

Re: Boeing E-7 Wedgetail (RAF)

Post by new guy »

E-7 wedgetail
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
These users liked the author new guy for the post:
Ron5

Scimitar54
Senior Member
Posts: 1738
Joined: 13 Jul 2015, 05:10
United Kingdom

Re: Boeing E-7 Wedgetail (RAF)

Post by Scimitar54 »

The thin end of the Wedge?

R686
Senior Member
Posts: 2353
Joined: 28 May 2015, 02:43
Australia

Re: Boeing E-7 Wedgetail (RAF)

Post by R686 »

Is the RAF going to change the name or are they just continuing using the RAAF name “wedgetail”

Maybe you should call it after the U.K.’s own bird of prey

White-tailed Eagles (also known as Sea Eagles)

Jdam
Senior Member
Posts: 1087
Joined: 09 May 2015, 22:26
United Kingdom

Re: Boeing E-7 Wedgetail (RAF)

Post by Jdam »

The RAAF funded the development, they get to name it. ;)

User avatar
SKB
Senior Member
Posts: 8015
Joined: 30 Apr 2015, 18:35
England

Re: Boeing E-7 Wedgetail (RAF)

Post by SKB »

How about "Nimrod" ? (!)

R686
Senior Member
Posts: 2353
Joined: 28 May 2015, 02:43
Australia

Re: Boeing E-7 Wedgetail (RAF)

Post by R686 »

Jdam wrote: 23 Oct 2024, 08:28 The RAAF funded the development, they get to name it. ;)
Well S Korea named it “Peace Eye“ and Turkey “Peace Egale”

Post Reply