That is not the same thing. This is a super power colonising a region, something the international community should not condone.abc123 wrote:And UK and Iceland for example had no fishing disputes? So China should send their frigates in Iceland-Faroerne gap because of that?
HMS Devonshire: The Royal Navy in the South China Sea
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Coming from a Brit, that's really gold... Will someone tell that to Argentinians?shark bait wrote:That is not the same thing. This is a super power colonising a region, something the international community should not condone.abc123 wrote:And UK and Iceland for example had no fishing disputes? So China should send their frigates in Iceland-Faroerne gap because of that?
Fortune favors brave sir, said Carrot cheerfully.
What's her position about heavily armed, well prepared and overmanned armies?
Oh, noone's ever heard of Fortune favoring them, sir.
According to General Tacticus, it's because they favor themselves…
What's her position about heavily armed, well prepared and overmanned armies?
Oh, noone's ever heard of Fortune favoring them, sir.
According to General Tacticus, it's because they favor themselves…
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Tell them what, that Argentina was created from Spanish colonialism?abc123 wrote: Coming from a Brit, that's really gold... Will someone tell that to Argentinians?
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Do the Chinese have a remotely operated guided drill then?!
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Of course, but that don't change the fact that UK is probably the last country that should condemn other countries because of colonialism.Cooper wrote:Tell them what, that Argentina was created from Spanish colonialism?abc123 wrote: Coming from a Brit, that's really gold... Will someone tell that to Argentinians?
Fortune favors brave sir, said Carrot cheerfully.
What's her position about heavily armed, well prepared and overmanned armies?
Oh, noone's ever heard of Fortune favoring them, sir.
According to General Tacticus, it's because they favor themselves…
What's her position about heavily armed, well prepared and overmanned armies?
Oh, noone's ever heard of Fortune favoring them, sir.
According to General Tacticus, it's because they favor themselves…
Re: HMS Devonshire: The Royal Navy in the South China Sea
Just came across this thread. What caught my eye was that I was serving on (the real County Class) HMS Devonshire in 1972 when we came from the Beira patrol to Singapore, past Vietnam (then at war) and to act as the guardship at Hong Kong. We then went south to Subic Bay and stopped at Bali. Then Australia (Perth) and Mauritius and Cape Town for Christmas.
Not really relevant to the topic (different era) but shows that the RN did have an HMS Devonshire in the South China Sea!
Not really relevant to the topic (different era) but shows that the RN did have an HMS Devonshire in the South China Sea!
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Those Russians are a tetchy bunch arent they hahaTempest414 wrote:that was a good rant feel better
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China could of course rearm Argentina. Five problems:
1) Current government of Argentina its no fan of its military.
2) Argentina is heavily dependent on the US.
3) Argentina's neighbours would likey see such a move as destabilising their region and look to US and UK to rearm themselves.
4) Argentina's military has been do depleted after nearly four decades of ambivalence towards it that any such capability may well end up being tokenism.
5) There's an on going process of re-normalisation between Argentine and British societies, led by business and academia, which on the Argentine side may well balk at any such move.
1) Current government of Argentina its no fan of its military.
2) Argentina is heavily dependent on the US.
3) Argentina's neighbours would likey see such a move as destabilising their region and look to US and UK to rearm themselves.
4) Argentina's military has been do depleted after nearly four decades of ambivalence towards it that any such capability may well end up being tokenism.
5) There's an on going process of re-normalisation between Argentine and British societies, led by business and academia, which on the Argentine side may well balk at any such move.
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More important than all of those - $$$, or lack thereof.
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What is the residual value of a car lease?