Falkland Islands (British Overseas Territory)

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A great read, thanks!
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HMS Clyde in South Africa for 3 months of rest and replenishment

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?o ... Itemid=106

Any other RN ship currently in South Atlantic, besided may-be-may-not-be Silent Service boat?
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HMS Enterprise is filling in for HMS Clyde

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So the CIA were not on the UK's side then. Its good to know who your allies are.

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bobp wrote:
So the CIA were not on the UK's side then. Its good to know who your allies are.
Not quite, it was a peace proposal had we lost the war. Lazy journalism at best.

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4 Tiffies (?) on the islands
... air superiority beckons for Argentina :)
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ArmChairCivvy wrote:... air superiority beckons for Argentina
The air defence is only a minimum deterrent that's needed It is subject to constant review. Should Faith, Hope, Charity & Desperation become insufficient to deter the Argentinean incursions into Falkland air space additional airframes would be sent. We have enough batch 1 Typhoons to reinforce them. Long term once Queen Elisabeth is fully operational the four will do. As we provided cover with four Harriers as a presence in Belize in the past. With the enduring thought of were the carrier is?
When we have the second carrier is operational the military option for Argentina is a none starter. The Argentinian military is now set up as a internal security army than an expeditionary army. The only military action would be a politically inspired a raiding stunt. That would be akin to poking the hornets nest and even the most belligerent nationalist would think twice.

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Does Spain support Buenos Aires claim to the Falklands?

Does Argentina still claim under its own laws that all shipping must seek its approval before entering Falklands EEZ
Or face prosecution?
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It seems that the ARA Las Islas Malvinas has run aground in the Beagle Channel near the city of Ushuaia.

Oh dear, how sad, never mind.


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Solar interference to satellite communications expected.

http://en.mercopress.com/2018/04/06/fal ... -reception

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Argentine Defence minister refers to British overseas territory as, “The Falklands.”

http://en.mercopress.com/2018/04/06/arg ... ical-storm

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Smokey wrote:Argentine Defence minister refers to British overseas territory as, “The Falklands.”

http://en.mercopress.com/2018/04/06/arg ... ical-storm
Did they finally get there?

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Operation Journeyman - The First Falklands Task Force (1977)

(Mark Felton Productions) 24th June 2019
Find out what happened when Argentina tried to invade the Falklands in 1977, and the British Operation Journeyman to stop them, as well as the operation to eliminate their secret military base in the South Sandwich Islands.
Operation Journeyman was a Royal Navy operation in which a naval taskforce was sent to the Falkland Islands in November 1977 to prevent an Argentine invasion.

The operation was ordered by James Callaghan after fifty Argentine "scientists" landed on Southern Thule, prompting fears of an Argentine invasion of the Falklands. The Argentines set up a military base on Thule. It is likely, according to the Foreign Office, that the prompt action prevented a more serious attack. The force planned under heavy security was commanded by Hugh Balfour and consisted of the nuclear submarine Dreadnought, two frigates, Alacrity and Phoebe, and the auxiliaries Resurgent and Olwen as support vessels.[2] The Argentines rapidly became aware of the taskforce's presence, but their forces remained on Thule and Callaghan decided against the use of force to evict them.

The foreign secretary at the time David Owen later claimed that if Margaret Thatcher's government had taken similarly quick action five years later, the Argentines would not have invaded in 1982 leading to the Falklands War.

The 1977 rules of engagement were:

"Commanding officers and aircraft captains are to respond to any aggression with tactful firmness and are to exhibit a determination to meet any escalation, though not to exceed that already carried out by the enemy."

"All use of force must be governed by the principle of using only the minimum force necessary to achieve the aim." Such force must be used only until it was evident "that the immediate aim is being achieved, and must in no way be retaliatory".


The submarine commander was told: "If you are attacked with [anti-submarine] weapons by [Argentine] forces, you are to surface or withdraw at high speed submerged, whichever will be of least risk to life."

They also set up a 50-mile security zone and any ships entering would be told that they must identify themselves and state their plans.[3] Classified documents relating to Operation Journeyman were released in 2005.

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Sink Argentina's Carrier 1982 - The Secret British Falklands War Mission

(Mark Felton Productions) 13th April 2020
The secret British mission to find and destroy the Veinticinco de Mayo (the Twenty-Fifth of May), Argentina's only aircraft carrier, that threatened the Royal Navy's Task Force sent to recapture the Falkland Islands.

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https://en.mercopress.com/2020/10/24/fa ... -the-beach

Last mine to be cleared from the Falklands.

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Of relevance?

https://ted.europa.eu/udl?uri=TED:NOTIC ... HTML&src=0

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II.2.4)
Description of the procurement:
The Joint Sensors and Engagement Networks Team (‘JSENS’), part of the UK Ministry of Defence (‘MoD’), intends to amend contract SACC/00003 with IBM United Kingdom (the ‘Contractor’) to add a new requirement to the contract. The new requirement is for equipment that will enable the UK’s air defence system, Sky Sabre, to receive and disseminate radar plot and strobe data from the Falkland Islands’ three primary Air Defence Radars. This data will be used in the generation of a complete and accurate air picture across the sky sabre command and control entities. The contract amendment will have a maximum value of GBP 750 000 ex VAT over a period of (1) years.

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