Gun 84mm Infantry L14a1 (CARL GUSTAV)

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Re: Gun 84mm Infantry L14a1 (CARL GUSTAV)

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Back blast is an issue for some rounds but they also have ones that can now be safely fired in enclosed spaces. If conflicts are going to be conducted increasingly in urban areas, a weapon like the M4 CG will become more and more useful.

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Lord Jim wrote:Back blast is an issue for some rounds but they also have ones that can now be safely fired in enclosed spaces. If conflicts are going to be conducted increasingly in urban areas, a weapon like the M4 CG will become more and more useful.
Provided that the six rounds/day limit can be addressed.

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mr.fred wrote:Provided that the six rounds/day limit can be addressed.
The previous plastics/ composites limit (err, gets a bit hot when firing) related to the over-the-whole-life number of shots fired
... and there was no counter, so the poor-old CGs got discarded about half way thru their lives

Is this now what applies?
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Sorry, that should have been 6shots/day user limit.
You could hand it to someone else who hadn’t been nearby once you’ve fired your six, or go over with increased risk of overpressure injury.

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Right; elf&safety then
... I know/knew a lot of people who did a lot of shooting, and paid no attention
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Don’t confuse Health and Safety with the grubby little workplace dictators who use it for the power it gives them.
It can be a force for good.

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Re: Gun 84mm Infantry L14a1 (CARL GUSTAV)

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The use of nearly all equipment is limited during training. The Challenger 2 etc. have a pretty restrictive mileage they are allowed per year for example. At least the Carl Gustav comes with a sub calibre training round that doesn't effect the barrel.

The Army should be seriously looking at the M$ version for its smaller SF orientated units as a minimum level of adoption. The US Army loves its M3 and M4 variants and other nations such as Canada are dusting off their old M2s, the version we used to use.

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