Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments

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The use of deployable artillery to quickly counter a cruise missile is interesting but left me wondering how the sensors were arranged for said cannon to target the missile

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seaspear wrote:The use of deployable artillery to quickly counter a cruise missile is interesting but left me wondering how the sensors were arranged for said cannon to target the missile
The Artillery batteries had no problem during WW2 knocking down the flying bombs the Germans sent over. Not that many got through. However knocking out a supersonic missile would be more difficult.

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So to quickly recap on DSEI 2021, companies setting our their stalls for 155mm artillery competition for Truck v AFV Wheeled v AFV tracked.

Oh and there was an M777 in the lobby.

HX3



HX2 Archer



NEXTER brought a gun on a truck and a boxer...



Both sides were informally slinging much at the other's concepts.

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bobp wrote:
seaspear wrote:The use of deployable artillery to quickly counter a cruise missile is interesting but left me wondering how the sensors were arranged for said cannon to target the missile
The Artillery batteries had no problem during WW2 knocking down the flying bombs the Germans sent over. Not that many got through. However knocking out a supersonic missile would be more difficult.
I'm not sure how many shells had to be fired to get a doodlebug but often those batteries were sited under such flight paths they did have radar warning of these back then the guns slaved to the then radar with fuse type ammunition
I would add these two articles in understanding my query about a sensor arrangement for a mobile gun just wheeled off a plane which seems to suggest some time may be needed
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboo ... ame-182186
https://www.popularmechanics.com/milita ... d-missile/

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Sounds like there must have been some serious computing power involved, and tracking capability as well as possibly a steerable shell with a kinetic warhead. Not sure how this would work in real battlefield conditions though.

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Given that it has repeatedly been stated that Precision Forces is one of the Army's highest priority programmes it is amazing how quite things have been since the announcement of the upgrade to the Army's M270 GMLORS vehicles. The Army is spoilt for choice with platforms that are continually being tested and improved yet not a peep from the MoD or Government. I was expecting more announcements from DSEi 2021.

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Lord Jim wrote:Given that it has repeatedly been stated that Precision Forces is one of the Army's highest priority programmes it is amazing how quite things have been since the announcement of the upgrade to the Army's M270 GMLORS vehicles. The Army is spoilt for choice with platforms that are continually being tested and improved yet not a peep from the MoD or Government. I was expecting more announcements from DSEi 2021.
Walking on eggshells until Ajax fiasco is sorted.

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All the more reason to put the poor animal out of its mystery in my opinion. For the numbers required, around 100 SP Guns for three Regiments, training and attrition spares, any platform chosen should have minimal UK specific equipment installed, mainly Comms. Given the importance of the programme, the level of UK content should be a low priority, the first two attempts at revitalising the UJK's AFV manufacturing capacity have been far from successful and until we see how Boxer and Challenger 3 programme evolve, getting the kit should be the priority. A ten year programme may seem a long time but it will be 2030 begore you know it or more accurately the MoD knows it.

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THE INTEGRATED REVIEW
LT GEN SIR ANDREW GREGORY KBE CB DL MASTER GUNNER ST JAMES’S PARK

https://www.thegunners.org.uk/blog/arti ... ted-review

REGULAR
    1st Regiment RHA will gain an AJAX tactical group battery.
      3rd Regiment RHA will re-role to the Multiple Launch Rocket System (MLRS), with two batteries equipped with M270 launchers, one of which also has a JACKAL tactical group. A third M270 battery will be provided by 101st Regiment RA on deployment.

      4th Regiment RA will gain a gun group, building on what is currently a tactical group battery.

      5th Regiment RA will resubordinate to the Deep Reconnaissance & Strike Brigade Combat Team.

      7th (Parachute) Regiment RHA will gain a gun battery, including a tactical group, and a tactical group battery.

      19th Regiment RA will gain an AJAX tactical group battery.
        26th Regiment RA will become a three battery MLRS Regiment, with two batteries equipped with M270 launchers, one of which also has an AJAX tactical group, and an AJAX tactical group battery. A third M270 battery will be provided by 101stRegiment RA on deployment.
          32nd Regiment RA will retain its third MUAS battery and gain a fourth MUAS battery.

          RESERVE

          101st Regiment RA will now provide a formed battery each to 3rd Regiment RHA and 26th Regiment RA, having previously provided individual M270 detachments and reinforcements.

          103rd Regiment RA will be aligned to Light Brigade Combat Team 2 and be expected to deploy as a fully constituted regiment, reinforced by 104th and 105th Regiments RA where appropriate.

          104th Regiment RA will provide individual reinforcements to 1st Regiment RHA and 19th Regiment RA in the Deep Reconnaissance & Strike Brigade Combat Team.
            105th Regiment RA will provide formed detachments as guns 7 & 8 in each gun battery of 4th Regiment RA who are supporting Light Brigade Combat Team 1.

            106th Regiment RA will continue to provide individual reinforcements to 7th Air Defence Group.
              A Battery HAC will provide formed detachments as guns 7 & 8 in each gun battery of 7th (Parachute) Regiment RHA.
                Patrols Squadron HAC will provide Special OP patrols to the Army Special Operations Brigade and continue to provide patrols to 4/73 Bty RA.

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                104RA (light gun) providing individuals as support to two AS90 regiments, and support 103RA in providing a regiment strength.

                Seems like a bum deal...

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                Totally not overwhelming.

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