Boeing Chinook (RAF)

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Re: Boeing Chinook (RAF)

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That and that it is the size of whale, makes a hell of down draft and noise, ,and would need Ben Nevis or Sherwood Forest for cover!

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I can't see an assault gunship ever being produced for the Chinook in this day and age. Apache largely filled that role post Vietnam and in the future it's bound to be replaced by an autonomous UAV that can loiter and provide close air support

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Lord Jim wrote:I wonder given the increased engine power of current and future Chinooks whether the ides of an Assault Gunship Chinook might resurface? The main issue of the platform developed during the Vietnam War was the lack of engine power to cope with the weight of the weapon systems fitted.
I can't see why we'd turn our transporter into a gunship? Surely separate platforms are needed for top cover when settling down, and Apache and Wildcat provide that?

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I'd rather see an AC-130 than an ACH-47 join the fleet

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Little J wrote:I'd rather see an AC-130 than an ACH-47 join the fleet
C-27 would be my choice! But then I'd replace the whole C130 fleet with them.

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RunningStrong wrote:
Little J wrote:I'd rather see an AC-130 than an ACH-47 join the fleet
C-27 would be my choice! But then I'd replace the whole C130 fleet with them.
Agreed. That or the new Brazilian job. Though you'll never see a gunship version of that.

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Well the Israelis have armed their CH-53s for fore support for long range missions using Spike NLOS amongst other things. As a fantasy project a ACH-47 could be armed with two door mounted M2 .50cal HMG and a 7.6smm Gatling at the rear. Fixes weapons could be six Brimstone and two pods of CVR-7 Rockets. The weight shouldn't be an issue but my calculations have been of the "Back of a fag packet", variety. Add a Day/Night EO turret under the nose and ensure all gunners have binocular NVGs, and the helicopter could still carry a SF team as well as escorting and providing fire support of more traditionally equipped SF orientated Chinooks. Adding AAR probes to work with tanker/SF support versions of the Atlas and the RAF would be providing serious support to our SF community. Just a fantasy though.

By the way has anyone seen anything anywhere about fitting a AAR probe to an Apache?

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Lord Jim wrote: The main issue of the platform developed during the Vietnam War was the lack of engine power
Also the small issue that they were all lost (or is there one in a museum)?
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They have rebuilt one based one that actually flew in Vietnam. The crews actually liked them, but they were slower than the helicopters they were to escort, the reverse of today, and their fire control system was simply the Mk1 Eye Ball. Increased speed as well as increased protection and greatly improved FCS could make such a platform viable if unlikely.

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