General UK Defence Discussion

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The RN can provide HMS Enterprise. Shame that the RAF (or its friends) cannot provide a serviceable Vulcan. :lol:

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Please tell me that Space Command have their own cadet force, like the Army Cadets, Air Training Corps, Sea Cadets and Royal Marines Cadets, So wanna call someone a Space Cadet!

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That is already the nick name given to RAF Cadets. :D

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And we where always told it was the navy that kept choke points open


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I see there's another report out about the state of single living accommodation in the MoD. Usual stuff, over promised under delivered. Too many people living in rubbish accommodation.

A report into the wider defence estate would be no doubt the same, leaking workshops and offices.
I now Air command have allocated billions to new buildings I wonder if the money will stay in that pile.
One of the popular areas to take money from when equipment projects are late.
Also one of the reasons so many camps supposed to close have been delayed, eg Halton and Henlow are years late closing.

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Covers everything from Ajax, to frigates to subs to procurement reforms to boxer upgrades and on

https://www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Ind ... 5741b61143

Also a hint that there maybe some resistance from across the pond to integrate meteor on the f35.

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This will be interesting to see how it develops.

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SW1 wrote:
I've read the intro, pretty light on detail. I'm not sure what practical difference it'll make. Seems to be a regrouping and some vague description about retrading being easier. We'll see what happens.

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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cd94 ... f314c16de0

Britain’s special forces will take on a new covert mission against China and Russia as they shift their focus to countering “big state adversaries”, a senior military chief has revealed.

Brigadier Mark Totten said that the SAS and SBS would have more time and assets for “higher risk” counterstate tasks requiring more detail, planning and specialist expertise. The Royal Marines will take over the units’ traditional roles.

Army sources said special forces might be given “politically treacherous” tasks such as training the navies of countries near the South China Sea to better defend against Chinese hostility.

Totten is in charge of a 4,000-strong “future commando force” of Royal Marines who will “burden-share” with Britain’s elite units. They will base themselves in small numbers around the world carrying out counterterrorism operations, deterring mercenaries and responding to crises.

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https://www.joint-forces.com/uk-news/45 ... ce-force-4

Royal Navy News Release, 17 July 2021: Drone swarms support Commando Forces trials in a first for the UK’s armed forces.

Drones dived, sailed and flew together in a swarm in a first for the UK’s armed forces during experimental exercises with the Royal Marines. An array of autonomous systems operated underwater, on the water, in the sky and over land to help Royal Marines Commandos as they carried out training raids on a number of complex ‘adversary’ positions – such as missile and radar installations – in Cumbria and Dorset.

The uncrewed systems were used on missions at the Electronic Warfare Tactics facility at RAF Spadeadam on the border with Northumberland and off the south coast in training areas around Lulworth Cove and the Defence BattleLab.

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Interesting article. But it does seem a bit of a mish mash of stuff, and The Times no longer has a particular reputation for accuracy.

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Until we use Drones in this way in an exercise where the OPFOR is deliberately trying to disable them by jamming or other means using state of the art equipment, I would say we are further off deploying them than many would like us to believe in actual combat ops.

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Given the exercise locations they may have already tested such things not that they’ll tell us.

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You could be right but that may take place after they have got the Drones up and running as they would like first.

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U.K. deploying 16 air assault to evacuate afghan embassy


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A lot of people working seriously hard this weekend


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Disgusted, once again, many lives lost for nothing.

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https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/p ... han-defeat

There is anxiety in Whitehall about an Afghanistan inquiry. But this inquiry will not be like the 12-volume Chilcot report on UK involvement in Iraq. Nobody is alleging malign intent but there is a need to learn the lessons of failure and to rectify deficiencies before the UK next intervenes overseas, as it surely will.

The recent notion that the War on Terror is over and has been replaced by threats from state actors is both misleading and dangerous. Events in both Afghanistan and Mali demonstrate that the threat from Islamist extremism is far from over. Furthermore, Russia and China have learned from observing the West fail against the asymmetric threats posed by determined insurgencies. Russia’s actions in the Donbas, Syria and Libya and China’s in Hong Kong and the Himalayas have been informed by Iraq and Afghanistan.

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I hope this is seared into the minds of all political classes for a long time



I hope also that all those who have been to or affected by Afghanistan are getting all the help they can at present it must be very difficult to process. Those there now have been given a desperate job to do it will be hard to process

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SW1 wrote:I hope this is seared into the minds of all political classes for a long time



I hope also that all those who have been to or affected by Afghanistan are getting all the help they can at present it must be very difficult to process. Those there now have been given a desperate job to do it will be hard to process
Sadly it won't be, and sadly they won't be. Many will have been hung out to dry. A tragedy

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You most definitely cant have these on sale and return but I’m sure they’ll be open to easy terms

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... e_2021.pdf

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