Land Warfare - Active Protection Systems thread

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Sounds interesting hope some of these systems find their way into protecting the new ASCOD II vehicles as well.

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Applique... OK, hope we will get some.

And if the German Puma did not get an active kill system for its huge (per vehicle) price tag, what hope (in hell) do the bankrupt Russians have to do it (on their Armata et all)?

Anyway, the Israelis seem to know what they are doing, and they are halving the cost of carrying an infantry squad into battle... by means of an APS system installed

Go figure
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ArmChairCivvy wrote: And if the German Puma did not get an active kill system for its huge (per vehicle) price tag, what hope (in hell) do the bankrupt Russians have to do it (on their Armata et all)?
I would be careful in buying into the view that the Russian's are bankrupt. They are running a trade surplus and are the biggest oil and gas producer in the world (as well as by far the biggest exporter of nuclear power stations). They have some $500bn in foreign exchange reserves (IIRC). Their GDP has been hit, but is that in dollars or rubles?

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I'd be surprised if MoD get anything particularly effective as there seems to be a complete lack of appetite for systems that miss the man-in-the-loop. You'd would have hoped that 10 years of RPGs might have changed that.

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Old RN wrote:They have some $500bn in foreign exchange reserves (IIRC). Their GDP has been hit, but is that in dollars or rubles?

Yeah, it is being carefully stage-managed, with the ruble going down in step with the oil price... just think how much poorer the average Russian - or even more so - the middle class, educated Russian is by now?
http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/RUREFEG:IND

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