CANADA

[abc123]

Obelix, Dogmatix, Getafix, Vitalstatistix, Cacofonix, Geriatrix, Unhygienix.

Boromir class? Aragorn-class? Baggins-class?

[inch]

as ive just said in the Australian thread hope you guys are going to tell me the type 26 design has won in Canada also v soon

[Frenchie]

Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Saab, Dassault and Airbus were all named Thursday to Canada’s official fighter jet supplier list, which allows them to receive information about plans to buy 88 jets and ultimately bid on the program.

https://www.defensenews.com/industry/20 ... mpetition/

It's premature, but dance of joy anyway

[ArmChairCivvy]

Same line-up as in the Finnish competition, also to replace Hornets:
"The aircraft expected to be offered to Canada include Lockheed Martin’s F-35, Boeing’s Super Hornet, the Eurofighter Typhoon, the Dassault Rafale and Saab’s Gripen."
- just that for Canada Airbus seems to be leading for Typhoon; in Finland's case it is BAE
- timing difference about a year (Canada requesting proposals in 2019; Finland in April or May)

[Frenchie]

Thanks for the details ACC

[ArmChairCivvy]

I've lost track of the time scale it took for Virtus, from concept to fielding it, but in Canada's case they didn't find suitable offers in 2012, 2013 went better and fielding is taking place now (this summer). Shepherd keeps the details of the system behind paywall, but the start was reported in its day
"Canada requests new proposals for Integrated Soldier System

4th April 2013 - 14:30 GMT | by Jonathan Tringham in London
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Canada has initiated a fresh round of proposals for an integrated soldier system after cancelling its 2012 solicitation due to a lack of suitable offers.

A formal request for proposals (RfP) has now been issued ..."

[Timmymagic]

es or is the RCAF using the Asterix for?

Unless they've made a mistake in the copy it seems a little odd. Do the Canadian's have any remote radar stations or airbases that need fuel re-supply from time to time? If they do I would have thought commercial charter would have been cheaper.

[R686]

es or is the RCAF using the Asterix for?

Unless they've made a mistake in the copy it seems a little odd. Do the Canadian's have any remote radar stations or airbases that need fuel re-supply from time to time? If they do I would have thought commercial charter would have been cheaper.

Can't remember is she ice strengthened?

Kiwis are doing it to there's to go down to Antarctica, I imagine the cunacks would have something similar in the north.

[Timmymagic]

Can't remember is she ice strengthened?

Not sure. But surely if she wasn't that would have made the rebuild even more ridiculously expensive? As it stands the entire project was barking mad, but sadly not a surprise in Canada's crazy world of defence procurement. For the cost of one Asterix they could have had 3 Tide Class...

[R686]

Can't remember is she ice strengthened?

Not sure. But surely if she wasn't that would have made the rebuild even more ridiculously expensive? As it stands the entire project was barking mad, but sadly not a surprise in Canada's crazy world of defence procurement. For the cost of one Asterix they could have had 3 Tide Class...

Couldn't agree more, the current government procrument policy is.........

[inch]

cant be too long before we hear who won csc frigate contract I hope, and the Australian sea 5000 contract is also to be announced soon I think (may)?

[R686]

Behind a paywall, but seems AuGov might do all right out of the shit happening in US/CDA relations

http://www.australiandefence.com.au/new ... hornet-buy

[ArmChairCivvy]

Boeing saying that anything is better than buying the "LM solution", from the above linked article:
"We have read reports that the Government of Canada is choosing to purchase used F/A-18 Classic Hornets from the Royal Australian Air Force in lieu of new Super Hornet fighter jets.

The Boeing Company respects the Canadian government’s decision and applauds the government’s continued use of a two engine fighter solution, which is a critical part of their northern Arctic border defence, NORAD cooperation, and coast to coast to coast security."

[R686]

Here's the breakdown of the additional Ex RAAF F/A18 Hornet deal.

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/ ... m-18-to-25

certainty cover the NORAD questions on availability. they must really be pissed off as there would have been that many in the boneyard for parts and rebuild to a degree.


https://news.usni.org/2016/06/23/marine ... m-boneyard

[R686]

Well finally some movement into construction

https://www.canada.ca/en/department-nat ... -ship.html

[SKB]

(Forces TV) 26th June 2018

The Royal Canadian Air Force has sent a contingent to the UK to perform public duties for Her Majesty The Queen. The personnel have now passed inspection at London's Wellington Barracks, meaning they have been given the green light to start guarding some of Britain's best-known landmarks.

[R686]

(Forces TV) 26th June 2018

The Royal Canadian Air Force has sent a contingent to the UK to perform public duties for Her Majesty The Queen. The personnel have now passed inspection at London's Wellington Barracks, meaning they have been given the green light to start guarding some of Britain's best-known landmarks.

Why?

Has any other nation done the same?

[Lord Jim]

I believe Australia has provided ceremonial guards for some of the Royal palaces not too long ago. The Commonwealth is invited/asked to do so.

[SKB]

Because the Queen is the head of state in 16 Commonwealth Realms. Those guardsmen may not be British, but they are HER armed forces.

[ArmChairCivvy]

Canada regrets being classified as "a threat" and hits back with reverse-pork barrelling selective tariffs:
"Many of the U.S. products were chosen for their political rather than economic impact. For example, Canada imports just $3 million worth of yogurt from the U.S. annually and most of it comes from one plant in Wisconsin, the home state of House Speaker Paul Ryan. The product will now be hit with a 10 percent duty.

"This is a perfectly reciprocal action," Freeland said. "It is a dollar for dollar response."

Another product on the list is whiskey, which comes from Tennessee and Kentucky, the latter of which is the home state of Republican Senate leader Mitch McConnell."
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/trad ... -u-n887991

Will Norad survive in this tit-for-tat?

[Halidon]

Canada regrets being classified as "a threat" and hits back with reverse-pork barrelling selective tariffs:
"Many of the U.S. products were chosen for their political rather than economic impact. For example, Canada imports just $3 million worth of yogurt from the U.S. annually and most of it comes from one plant in Wisconsin, the home state of House Speaker Paul Ryan. The product will now be hit with a 10 percent duty.

"This is a perfectly reciprocal action," Freeland said. "It is a dollar for dollar response."

Another product on the list is whiskey, which comes from Tennessee and Kentucky, the latter of which is the home state of Republican Senate leader Mitch McConnell."
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/trad ... -u-n887991

Will Norad survive in this tit-for-tat?

He hasn't quite killed NATO yet, I think NORAD can pull itself across the Jan 20, 2020 finish line.

[SKB]

(Forces TV) 5th July 2018

The Royal Canadian Air Force are carrying out public duties in the UK for a month, including guarding landmarks around London. In preparation for their time in Britain, personnel have been given vocal training to ensure their voices are in top condition when giving commands.

[ArmChairCivvy]

Ohh- Canada:

"Last year [2017], Jean-Denis Fréchette, the parliamentary budget officer, estimated the CSC [frigate] program would cost $61.82 billion. He also warned that every year the awarding of the contract is delayed beyond 2018, taxpayers will spend an extra $3 billion because of inflation.

The surface combatant will be the backbone of the future Royal Canadian Navy.

In November in a surprise twist a French-Italian consortium declined to formally submit a bid and instead offered Canada a fleet of vessels at half the price.

Officials with Fincantieri of Italy and Naval Group of France said they don’t believe the procurement process as it is currently designed will be successful." -later in the article, as we know, it is said that the Gvmnt turned the proposal down

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/ne ... quirements

[NickC]

Recent deadline passed for revised bids for Canadian Surface Combatant (CSC) Program, reported Navantia-Saab Team have submited their proposal to Irving Shipbuilding (Canadian Navy/MOD unusually delegated authority to shipyard Irving to pick the winner).

The team is proposing a solution based on the Navantia F105 frigate design, an upgraded Flight II version of the F100 Álvaro de Bazán-class frigates, the Cristóbal Colón (F-105) and the follow on Royal Australian Navy’s Hobart-class air-warfare destroyers and also basis of the GD BIW bid for the USN FFG(X).

Saab Australia will provide the 9LV CMS and the Australian CEA Technologies Active Phased Array Radar, assuming cut and paste variant of their losing bid for the Australian SEA5000 frigate contractwon by the BAE Type 26 Australian variant.

Presuming that the Navantia/Saab team did not use the new generation flat panel Saab Sea Giraffe 4A AESA GaN S- band and Sea Giraffe 1X band radars due to time and cost constraints of revised design for the CSC.

This follows the Canada's Combat Ship Team bid led by Lockheed Martin Canada based on the BAE Type 26
http://www.canadascombatshipteam.com/

Have seen no mention of third bidder Alion Canada, Damen and Atlas proposal.

[inch]

Any more news on the frigate programe yet.?