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Too well armed, and competively priced to be either used by the Royal Navy or bought by MOD.

They would be perfect if the Royal Navy never went to war and could build to commercial standards.

and are the rivers likely to go to war anytime soon?

marktigger wrote:and are the rivers likely to go to war anytime soon?

Likely no, possible yes.
Expect the unexpected and you wont be

given the Irish are deploying P51's & P61's on the Libya refugee mission they are as much at risk.....and both those classes are much easier on the eye than anything River related

The new Batch of Rivers look good enough too Mark......The P60s are "improved" P50s optimised for patroling the north Atlantic in winter. They are all as "fighty" as was thought appropriate and the INS seems happy enough to send them to the Med. They are not designed to defeat China in an actual war. They are expected to police Irish soverignty within our EEZ quite effectively perhaps in the next (post Brexit) cod war. That should be fun for all concerned as the EU Fisheries Policy is dismantled. Hopefully Ireland will benefit from the fallout , but I expect Spain and France to be seriously pissed.

Pic of both P50s attached.

Some good news for a change. Photographed this week, this is the first section of the keel of the as-yet unnamed P64, which will be the fourth BECKETT CLASS ship to join the NS fleet.

hopefully another project on time and on budget.
Wonder what appledore's next project will be

Perhaps they could stretch a P60 into a "Crossover" or Type 31 for us.......Would like two please.

or MCMV/hydrography vessel

Irish Defence Forces LE Samuel Beckett (P61) arrives in London heading to the DSEi trade show

Babcock International has announced that it is to open a facility in Busan, South Korea’s second largest city after its capital Seoul.
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/babcock ... uth-korea/

Appledore to close

Babcock International has announced that the Appledore shipyard is to close in March 2019.
https://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/20 ... e-in-2019/
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/b ... t-13517173

Here Is Babcock’s Frigate Proposal For The Hellenic Navy

British shipbuilder Babcock is proposing its Arrowhead 140 design for the Hellenic Navy frigate requirement. The vessels, based on the future Type 31 frigate of the Royal Navy, are part of a wider package offer by the shipbuilder which partnered with Thales UK, and is supported by the British government.

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... enic-navy/

South Korea’s HHI And Babcock Ink Strategic Alliance For CVX Aircraft Carrier

South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) and Babcock International that possesses the top-notch naval defense technologies and directly participated in the development of the British aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth signed a partnership regarding the CVX aircraft carrier project.

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... t-carrier/

I'm not sure how recently this happened, but Rosyth's Goliath crane has had it's former "Aircraft Carrier Alliance" logo replaced by a Babcock one.


(@williamdowning1) 31st August 2021

I think this happened a while ago Babcock bought the goliath crane from the ACA as it was up for sale after the QEC build.

Ready for the order for the 3rd CVF I see

Or the first batch 2 QEC! :

I truly believe that the batch 2 QEC will cost les than the new measurement standard that is price sale of Chelsea F.c !!!!!!!

xav wrote: ↑01 Sep 2021, 09:14 South Korea’s HHI And Babcock Ink Strategic Alliance For CVX Aircraft Carrier

South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) and Babcock International that possesses the top-notch naval defense technologies and directly participated in the development of the British aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth signed a partnership regarding the CVX aircraft carrier project.

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... t-carrier/

Abt 2 yrs back I picked up this one on the "local media" but the more global types (read that one as a 'singular') poured ridicule on me
... but here we go. And the film can be rolled back. So further discussion shut down?

ArmChairCivvy wrote: ↑23 May 2022, 22:19

xav wrote: ↑01 Sep 2021, 09:14 South Korea’s HHI And Babcock Ink Strategic Alliance For CVX Aircraft Carrier

South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) and Babcock International that possesses the top-notch naval defense technologies and directly participated in the development of the British aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth signed a partnership regarding the CVX aircraft carrier project.

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... t-carrier/

Abt 2 yrs back I picked up this one on the "local media" but the more global types (read that one as a 'singular') poured ridicule on me
... but here we go. And the film can be rolled back. So further discussion shut down?

If the RoK carrier programme goes ahead, Babcock seem to have made themselves integral to either of the competing concept teams.

https://www.babcockinternational.com/ne ... -of-korea/

Unlike the UK, both Daewoo and HHI appear to have the scale. facilities and capability to deliver ships of that size.