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The LE Samuel Beckett class is a class of 3 (and a further ship ordered). Offshore Patrol vessels designed for fisheries protection, search and rescue, maritime protection and boarding operations. Named after Irish writers a break with tradition of naming vessels after women from Irish Mythology. The first vessel was laid down in November 2011 and Commissioned In May 2014. With the second vessel delivered in 2015 and the third was named in 2016 with a fourth vessel ordered in 2016 for the cost of £30 million.
The Vessels are:-
LE Samuel Beckett
LE James Joyce
LE William Butler Yates

Designed by Vard Marine Inc and based on an earlier design the LE Roisin. Designed to work on the Atlantic coast of Ireland. They are fitted to work with Remotely operated submersibles and decompression chambers for divers. And Unmanned aerial vehicles.
Built by Babcock Marine at appledore in North Devon and fitted out by Moss Marine in Southampton.
The vessel is powered by 2x Wartsilia 6 cylinder Diesels.

Displacement: 1933 tonnes
Length: 90 M
Beam: 14 M
Draught: 3.8 M
Power: 2x Wartsilla 6 cylinder
Speed: 15 Kn cruise
23 Kn Maximum
Range: 11,000 Km
Boats: 3x 8m RHIB
Complement: 54 (44 & 10 trainees)
Armament:
1 x 76mm Oto Melara
2 x 20mm Rheinmetall RH202 cannon
2x 12.7mm Browning Machine Gun
4x 7.62mm FN MAG


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Re: Babcock Shipbuilders LE Samuel Beckett

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Nice post Mark.......

For those without Gaelic, the L.E. before the names of the OPVs simply translates as ...Long Éireannach (Irish Ship)

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Would they be a better choice than the Rivers?

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Ron5 wrote:Would they be a better choice than the Rivers?
No helicopter deck?

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the design they are based on Vard had put a helicopter deck on the Vigilant class built for Mauritius whih the preceding Roisin class was based on

http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/Common ... ritius.htm

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Here's an INS video of a P60 at work.....

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Third P60 on sea-trials today.....Nice job Babcock looking forward to number four....http://www.northdevonjournal.co.uk/8203 ... story.html

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Galloglass wrote:Third P60 on sea-trials today.....Nice job Babcock looking forward to number four....http://www.northdevonjournal.co.uk/8203 ... story.html
Having proved themselves satisfactory (and more) to the customer, so much so that a fourth vessel is on order, I would go further.
Give them a chance at the proposed T31, a step up from the P60 and not as complex as the T26 (or so we are told).

They deserve a chance, and BAE needs a competitior.

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jonas wrote:
Galloglass wrote:Third P60 on sea-trials today.....Nice job Babcock looking forward to number four....http://www.northdevonjournal.co.uk/8203 ... story.html
Having proved themselves satisfactory (and more) to the customer, so much so that a fourth vessel is on order, I would go further.
Give them a chance at the proposed T31, a step up from the P60 and not as complex as the T26 (or so we are told).

They deserve a chance, and BAE needs a competitior.
How would you turn it into a light frigate?, surely Venator 110 or a strecthed kareef is a better option????

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rec wrote:
jonas wrote:
Galloglass wrote:Third P60 on sea-trials today.....Nice job Babcock looking forward to number four....http://www.northdevonjournal.co.uk/8203 ... story.html
Having proved themselves satisfactory (and more) to the customer, so much so that a fourth vessel is on order, I would go further.
Give them a chance at the proposed T31, a step up from the P60 and not as complex as the T26 (or so we are told).

They deserve a chance, and BAE needs a competitior.
How would you turn it into a light frigate?, surely Venator 110 or a strecthed kareef is a better option????

Sorry perhaps I didn't make myself clear. I wasn't suggesting P60 being in contention for the T31 project. I was saying that having made a succes of the P60 build, they should be given a chance at T31 whatever design is chosen. Myself I have always favoured Venator 110 as a starting point, I'm not a fan of the Khareef.

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Interesting topic, even more so as the renders have that huge space between the bridge and the gun??

" Each form was assessed for its performance in resistance, seakeeping (pitch, roll,
slamming) and intact stability properties.
Table 2 Parametric Hullforms
In order to consider the balance between these results, the seakeeping, resistance and stability
assessments have been ranked relative to each other and Figure 4 indicates this relative
assessment. This suggests that the best starting point would appear to be hull 3; this hull
offers good seakeeping (broadly equivalent to hulls 6 or 9), has adequate stability and offers
good resistance results. In fact this hull does not achieve the best results for any specific
characteristics but represents a potentially good balance between them. "

This is of course a different design (wind tunnel exercise) by the firm BMT, but nevermind, we are getting closer...
http://www.bmtdsl.co.uk/media/6097931/B ... r-2013.pdf

- from the linked doc the table that is being assessed will become visible
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we should have looked at those as river I class replacements in proper competition.

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Accept the rivers don't exist because the Royal Navy needed replacement patrol boats.

The only reason the new river's exist is job creation on the Clyde, orders at appledoor would do nothing to achieve that goal.

In light of that an open competition makes no sense because it does nothing to deliver the requirements of the programme.
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and if scotland goes independent then was it such a good idea putting all the eggs in one basket?

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Ill continue on the national shipbuilding thread;

http://ukdefenceforum.net/viewtopic.php ... 013#p26013
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shark bait wrote:Accept the rivers don't exist because the Royal Navy needed replacement patrol boats.

The only reason the new river's exist is job creation on the Clyde, orders at appledoor would do nothing to achieve that goal.

In light of that an open competition makes no sense because it does nothing to deliver the requirements of the programme.
Hi Shark...In light of BAEs new GP Frigate concept of "Stretched Rivers" perhaps it might be an idea for Babcock to look a "Stretched Beckett".....If the RN is interested perhaps Ireland might order one too.

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longest babcock can go is 131m and thats by building diagonally across their dry dock but would be interesting to see what a stretched Beckett could be like

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L.E. William Butler Yeates arrives home at Naval Base.
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A handsome ship; comes with a church steeple fitted on top of the funnel?
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they are I think nicer than the rivers

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They are... and the Rivers look good, too.

Then again, the T21s were the real yacht-lookalikes, if there ever was one; and they did go like a Porsche, too.
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ArmChairCivvy wrote:They are... and the Rivers look good, too.

Then again, the T21s were the real yacht-lookalikes, if there ever was one; and they did go like a Porsche, too.

Agree 100%. But I guess handsome is as handsome does.

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i remember reading a statement from a test pilot who said if it looks right most of the time it is.

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Well they do look nice.....Here's a picture.......
Rendezvous.jpg
L.É. James Joyce which has been tasked to continue humanitarian duties in the Mediterranean made a rendezvous with L.É. Roisin, east of Gibraltar.
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