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Having two thirds available is not a bad result for the Navy.

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And then there was only 12.

Got the feeling she will not find a 2nd life with a new navy. :(

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"Twelve Type 23 frigates are included as HMS MONMOUTH left Royal Navy service on 30 June 2021

That's interesting. Just acceptance of reality or being prepped for transfer to Greece? Ahh seen previous post - scrapping

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Was Monmouth ever schduled for a LIFEX? Was it quietly cancelled without announcement?

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Hooray! Yet another rusty eyesore to be added to Fountain Lake Jetty!!! :crazy:

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Possible target for replacement Anti Ship Missile? :idea:

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Ultra Electronics have announced that Sonar 2150 successfully completed its first-of-class sea acceptance trial onboard HMS Portland.
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/sonar-2 ... ce-trials/

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Apparently Monmouth and Montrose are to be "gifted" to the Greek Navy. Don't know if this is a reliable source - uses that generic robot voice all too common on videos nowadays - just came across it on youtube. You may have to put up with an advert at the start of the vid.


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Only if Babcock win the new Frigate contract, I believe but the UK Gov could be trying to sweeten the deal by gifting them in advance I suppose. I mean they literally gave Brazil HMS Ocean after you deduct the costs for the overhaul and updating carried out just before it was decided to sell teh ship from what Brazil paid.

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Babcock's is hurting financially. They could do with more profitable business.

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HMS Richmond, a T23 frigate, now at Sasebo, Japan. Interesting her CAMM has the mushroom hat again. Welcome to Japan! (although it is very far from my residence..)


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HMS Portland (F79) LIFEX completed

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Sad, I guess no one else wanted to pick up the bill to bring her back into service with their navies either.

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Really sad.
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What's her position about heavily armed, well prepared and overmanned armies?
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So, if 2 x T23 end up under the Greek Flag, we will be down to 10 Frigates! :crazy:

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Soon we will be down to 8, I’d take 10 frigates (T26) and be grateful :D
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OK but we will still want another 10 for our “Second Fleet”! :mrgreen:

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What, no mention of the frikkin laser announcement???

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(ships, planes and gaming) 13th September 2021


(richjpat) 13th September 2021
The decommissioned HMS Monmouth arriving in Portsmouth Harbour UK after being towed from Devonport. She will now await disposal (sold or scrapped)
HMS Monmouth (F235) was the T23 that escorted QE over to the US for Westlant18 in 2018.

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Frikkin lasers Pt II. Can we assume that Dragonfire has failed? ..
DSEI 2021: MoD awards Thales naval laser demonstration contract

14th September 2021 - 12:30 GMT | by Harry Lye in London

Thales will develop a naval directed-energy weapon that will be fitted onto a Type 23 frigate for testing.

UK Minister for Defence Procurement Jeremy Quin has announced a swathe of contracts to develop directed energy weapons (DEW), including a naval laser that will be fitted onto a Type 23 frigate.

Speaking on 14 September at DSEI, Quin said: 'We are investing £6.6 billion [$9.15 billion] in research and development across defence over the next four years, reaffirming our commitment to provide the Armed Forces with truly advanced capabilities.

'Directed Energy Weapons are a key element of our future equipment programmes and we intend to become a world-leader in the research, manufacture and implementation of this next-generation technology.'

The naval laser contract is one of three, worth a total of around £72.5 million, to develop advanced laser and RF demonstrators as part of the Novel Weapons Programme.

The contract will see a Thales-led consortium including BAE Systems, Vision4ce, Chess Dynamics, and IPG work for two years on demonstrator that the RN will then trialled for one year.

Thales will act as an overall integrator for the system with BAE Systems will lead on ship integration with IPG sourcing a UK-laser for the work.

Thales in Northern Ireland, which specialises in traditional and novel weapons systems, will lead the project.

MoD Director Strategic Programmes Shimon Fhima said: 'These technologies have the potential to revolutionise the future battlefield for our Armed Forces, enabling the prosecution of new targets in the land, sea and air domains and allowing commanders to meet mission objectives in new ways.

'We must exploit at pace the cutting-edge technologies developed by the talented scientists and engineers across the UK to capitalise on its benefit.'

The lion's share of the £72.5 million will go to Thales, as the company also won a contract for a land-based RF weapon to be trialled by the British Army; however, Raytheon UK also received a demonstrator contract to install a High-Energy Laser Weapon System on British Army Wolfhound vehicles.

Thales Northern Ireland managing director Philip McBride told Shephard the essence of the contract was not necessarily about laser power, but rather CONOPS and how the system is used, maintained and operated.

Demonstration work will explore the practicalities of identifying, tracking and engaging targets with the laser system.

It has not been revealed which Type 23 frigate will be fitted with the demonstrator due to operational availability schedules.

As it is a demonstrator, the laser will not be fully integrated into the ship's battle management system but will be integrated with some key subsystems.

Successful demonstration work could lead to a traditional design and manufacture contract for the laser system and the rollout onto more ships of the RN fleet.

McBride told Shephard: 'The benefits are clear and, even though [we've] demonstrated [it] for a long time, the technology and the power requirements are such now that we can literally field things.

'From an MoD perspective and from a business perspective, precision is all-important. That becomes more and more important as target sizes become smaller. The capability we can provide from our fine tracking and fine pointing is now a level we can track and address those very small targets.'

DEW systems have several potential benefits, including increased precision and reduced risk of collateral damage. Their use is limited only by battery or power generation capacity, not the physical space needed to house missiles or ammunition.

Delivery will be managed by Team Hersa, a partnership of DE&S and Dstl. Hersa will prepare defence for introducing innovative weapons systems and ensuring the armed forces can integrate the systems on current equipment.

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HMS Lancaster admires the Northern Lights
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(MoD) 28th September 2021
Let's take a moment and admire the stunning Northern Lights onboard HMS Lancaster!
During a two-week solo patrol to the Arctic, Type 23 frigate HMS Lancaster was lucky enough to witness the breathtaking lights display onboard as they carried out solo patrols in the Arctic. This was the second time that HMS Lancaster has headed out to the Arctic this year, however this was the first time that she has been on her own. The Portsmouth-based warship went it alone on a 3,000-mile round-trip through the Norwegian Sea and into the Arctic Circle, the latest Royal Navy vessel to head to the High North over the past few years.

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Some part of me thinks she can work more.
Some part of me thinks she worked much longer than originally planned.
Some part of me thinks can it be exported, with upgrades?


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donald_of_tokyo wrote: 24 Nov 2021, 00:33 Some part of me thinks she can work more.
Some part of me thinks she worked much longer than originally planned.
Some part of me thinks can it be exported, with upgrades?

I agree, but not to sell her, she should have completed refit and retained, especially if we're serious about increasing service fleet. Helps justify Manning levels, retains Trades etc. Use her sparingly, permanent UK basing.

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