Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)

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... ENTERPRISE is following in its sister ship's footsteps by being decommissioned at the end of this month.

What a hell is going on... Lack of man power, presumably?

It was a big question from where the crew for the 2 OSV's recently procured will be provided, MROSS(1) and MCM-OSV. I am much more getting confident that "lack of man-power" is the major issue for RN.

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But both of those are going to be RFA manned. If you add onto this the crew being released from the MCMs and also the fact we are down on escorts, something doesn’t quite add up overall.
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Repulse wrote: 07 Mar 2023, 14:14 But both of those are going to be RFA manned. If you add onto this the crew being released from the MCMs and also the fact we are down on escorts, something doesn’t quite add up overall.
I also thought that the 2 OSVs will required RFA crew. However, we all know there is NOT redundant RFA crew.

In near future, the 3 FSSS to come will eat the crew of Fort Victoria, Argus, and one more vessel. This "one more" will be "one of the 3 Bays, 4 Tides, and 3 FSSS in rotation for long maintenance", I guess. If we want to keep Argus until MRSS comes, "2 vessels out of 11 in long maintenance" will be needed (might be acceptable).

But, anyway, there is no crew for the 2 OSVs.

As RFA vessels are all mix-crewed with RFA and RN members, I "guess" some flexibility may exists. Thus, I thought the crew of HMS Enterprise will "eventually" fill the 2 OSVs. Just an assumption.

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That maybe the case and you would think the crew of a survey vessel would have the sort of skills required to do underwater surveying just maybe not the need for a 20mm and grey funnel in home waters.

In terms of overall manpower levels the split between RN and RFA is not fixed and the Navy could move budget from RN to RFA personnel if it wanted to.

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Interesting comparison of current MCMVs and (presumably) MCM USVs.


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Mind the gap!


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The 9 meter X could even be deployed from a RB2

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Poiuytrewq wrote: 30 Mar 2023, 16:33 Mind the gap!
Might need a bigger drone to cover what HMS Enterprise did in evacuating nationals during the Libyan conflict…
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