Re: French Armed Forces
Posted: 12 Dec 2020, 17:00
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Re: French Armed Forces
Posted: 12 Dec 2020, 17:29
Hmm, only two catapults? I expected at least three for such a large ship...
Re: French Armed Forces
Posted: 12 Dec 2020, 19:26
2 more than the RN 
sorry had to 
The Chinese CATOBAR carrier may have 3 according to a picture on the wall behind the people in the press release a while back..
sorry had to The Chinese CATOBAR carrier may have 3 according to a picture on the wall behind the people in the press release a while back..
Re: French Armed Forces
Posted: 12 Dec 2020, 20:17
Would the French carrier have a version of the H.M.W.H.S as deployed on Queen Elizabeth class its manning level of a thousand sailors could either be because of this or nuclear propulsion requires it ?
Since the ship is to field the next generation fighter still under planning does this suggest this fighter will either be designed for carrier deployment or come in two versions? either way , and would the partners in the next generation aircraft be paying for the navalized version design development?
Since the ship is to field the next generation fighter still under planning does this suggest this fighter will either be designed for carrier deployment or come in two versions? either way , and would the partners in the next generation aircraft be paying for the navalized version design development?
Re: French Armed Forces
Posted: 13 Dec 2020, 00:46
A very welcome childhood flashback!SKB wrote:Jensy wrote:FS Jacques Chirac! Though I'd expect Richelieu is more likely.
^ Cardinal Richelieu, the baddie character from "Dogtanian And The Three Muskehounds".
Re: French Armed Forces
Posted: 13 Dec 2020, 01:15
Given this is a "Prestige" programme one at least will be built there is no doubt. As for the next gen. air systems to be carried aboard, it would make sense to simply have one version like with the F/A-18 or F-4 that can operate for carriers but is just as happy on land. Yes there is a weight penalty but the two aircraft mentioned show it is not necessarily an impediment.
Re: French Armed Forces
Posted: 13 Dec 2020, 10:29
That'd be where I'd put my money with maybe Jeanne d'Arc, Charlemagne or maybe Georges Pompidou as outsiders.Jensy wrote:Though I'd expect Richelieu is more likely.
Re: French Armed Forces
Posted: 13 Dec 2020, 10:34
Shame we did not build a third QEC, then the new French Carrier could have been named D’artagnon! 
Re: French Armed Forces
Posted: 13 Dec 2020, 10:44
if German planes will be onboarded, yes, definitelyPseudo wrote:Charlemagne
Re: French Armed Forces
Posted: 13 Dec 2020, 23:37
Macron would match the ego of the actual person.
Re: French Armed Forces
Posted: 14 Dec 2020, 19:49
I think they will definitely build 2 this time around ,and Will be the premier navy of the European area to boot ,2 biggest nuclear carriers ( than qe class) also 3 mistral class ,if not just to dispel Boris claim about rn being the premier navy in Europe ,that's my quessin anyways
Re: French Armed Forces
Posted: 14 Dec 2020, 21:31
And know that how?inch wrote: will definitely build 2 this time around
Re: French Armed Forces
Posted: 14 Dec 2020, 21:33
Surely the Mistrals will be going out of service by the time the new carriers enter service, about twenty years hence!inch wrote: also 3 mistral class
Re: French Armed Forces
Posted: 15 Dec 2020, 18:36
Thats why I said that's my guessing anyways j tattersall
Re: French Armed Forces
Posted: 15 Dec 2020, 18:38
Could be just after the second CVN is built ? just in time to build 2 LHD, even then that will be a good place to be for the MN
Also I think 2 x QEC and maybe 2 x Albion replacements ( LHD fingers crossed ) will still be a good place for the future RN, especially considering all the cuts & penny pinching ( but pound foolish ) that has gone on ...
Also I think 2 x QEC and maybe 2 x Albion replacements ( LHD fingers crossed ) will still be a good place for the future RN, especially considering all the cuts & penny pinching ( but pound foolish
) that has gone on ...Re: French Armed Forces
Posted: 16 Dec 2020, 08:35
If the French navy get two CVN and it is a big if they will need more tier 1 escorts once they have FREMM AAW they will have 4 x AAW and 6 ASW and the tier 2 FTI class. As for who will have the most powerful navy it is all dick waving but if the RN want to be top dog then we will need to replace the 2 Albion's with 2 LHA's and the 3 Bay's and Argus with 4 new Enforcers class LSD's/ LPD's
Re: French Armed Forces
Posted: 16 Dec 2020, 17:43
French E-2D Advanced Hawkeyes To Feature Aerial Refueling Capability
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... apability/The future E-2D Advanced Hawkeyes of the French Navy (Marine Nationale) will come with aerial refueling capability, Naval News has learned from the Directorate General of Armaments (DGA).
Contacted by Naval News, the DGA officer in charge of the E-2D program confirmed that the future French E-2Ds will feature aerial refueling capability:
“The French E-2Ds will be equipped with an in-flight refueling probe. The following French aircraft should be able to refuel them: Rafale M, A400M, MRTT, KC130J and future refuelers.”
Naval News understands that the “future refuelers” mentioned above is related to the future aircraft carrier’s air wing ability to refuel its own aircraft. This will be the Rafale M replacement (known as NGF) or could even be an unmanned aerial refueler (something similar to the MQ-25)
Re: French Armed Forces
Posted: 17 Dec 2020, 17:29
France has decided to restart holding large scale division sized conventional warfighting exercises for the first time in decades.
Re: French Armed Forces
Posted: 17 Dec 2020, 17:38
The tweet does not open for me, but an interesting development as their Scorpion programme is progressing at pacemuttbutt wrote: restart holding large scale division sized conventional warfighting exercises
- the number of VBCIs deployed to Mali was actually very low and the ones that went in first did not have the enhancements, like Felin for the dismounts (and other sections still mounted) to fully benefit from a locally dispersed way of operating.
Re: French Armed Forces
Posted: 22 Dec 2020, 15:06
French Navy’s Albatros To Set New Maritime Surveillance Standards… Until UAVs Come Into Play
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... into-play/On Novembre 19, 2020, the French Minister of the Armed Forces confirmed a contract notification to Dassault Aviation for twelve “Albatros” Maritime Surveillance and Intervention Aircraft (AVSIMAR). Based on the Falcon 2000LXS, the Albatros is set to replace previous generations of maritime surveillance aircraft in service with the French Navy and on the export market. Arriving after 2025, it is likely to operate alongside next generation maritime UAVs.
Re: French Armed Forces
Posted: 24 Dec 2020, 15:35
Lots of Naval Air news from France lately...
French Navy’s Upgraded ATL2 MPA Reaches IOC
French Navy’s Upgraded ATL2 MPA Reaches IOC
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... aches-ioc/The French Navy (Marine Nationale) Atlantique 2 (ATL2) "Standard 6" maritime patrol aircraft (MPA) reached initial operational capacity on 18 December 2020.
The IOC validation comes at the end of an intense period of operational evaluation conducted by the ATL2 detachment of the CEPA/10S Air Test and Evaluation Squadron of the French Navy. This evaluation revealed a significant capability enhancement, particularly in the field of anti-submarine warfare (ASW).
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Moving forward, two more Atlantique 2 “Standard 6” are set to be delivered in 2021 for a total fleet of five operational aircraft by the time the FOC is achieved (end of 2021).
Re: French Armed Forces
Posted: 24 Dec 2020, 17:01
OK, a good bridge to
" until 2030. The ATL2 is then set to be replaced by the French-German MAWS program."
Connected to that I wonder if the Germans still fly the same airframes in ELINT capacity?
" until 2030. The ATL2 is then set to be replaced by the French-German MAWS program."
Connected to that I wonder if the Germans still fly the same airframes in ELINT capacity?
Re: French Armed Forces
Posted: 25 Dec 2020, 05:07
Airbus is pushing its A320 MPA for the MAWS programme and is seen as the prime contender, with the same platform also being put forward as the basis for an interim replacement for the E-3As of NATO's AWACS force.
Re: French Armed Forces
Posted: 25 Dec 2020, 11:06
OK, so in those hypotheticals we get to make the wings
... if Airbus sticks around for that long (I certainly hope so)
... if Airbus sticks around for that long (I certainly hope so)
Re: French Armed Forces
Posted: 26 Dec 2020, 12:38
Hypothetically yes, at present both programmes are in their initial stages under the joint european programme management offices. A european solution is being sought for the MPA but it will not be plain sailing as some european NATO members have already decided on the next generation MPA platforms such as Italy and Norway.