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The more I'm hearing as the day goes in about french antics after aukus the more pathetic the French government really is lol

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Just ignore 'em.

They'll go away or grow up (preferably both), their choice.

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A400m now fully operational in parachute delivery in french air force

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This article by a Swedish commentator attempts to explain why not a single European government has yet come out publicly in support of France over AUKUS.
Why France Is Getting No Sympathy for Its Lost Sub Deal
Its European neighbors have long bristled at Paris’ self-dealing and aggressive sales tactics.
ELISABETH BRAW | SEPTEMBER 21, 2021

France is fuming over AUKUS—the new tripartite security arrangement that scuttled its contract to build submarines for Australia—but is receiving scarcely any expressions of sympathy from fellow EU member states. That may be because France itself uses some distinctly tough tactics to secure arms exports, and sells to customers others deem unsavory. Yes, Paris considers arms exports essential to its sovereignty, but its friends too are interested in sovereignty, not to mention fair play.
read more here: https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2021/0 ... al/185493/

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Socarenam Launches First POM OPV For French Navy
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French shipbuilder Socarenam launched the first ship in a new class of Offshore Patrol Vessels (OPV) for the French Navy. The "Auguste Benebig" was launched at the Socarenam shipyard in Saint Malo (Brittany) on 15 October 2021 as part of the POM (Patrouilleur d’Outre-Mer) program.
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... ench-navy/

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How big are these vessels compared to the B2 Rivers?

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it said 80 meters at the bottom of the link

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Ok and how long are the B2 Rivers? being lazy and can't be bothered to look it up. :yawn:

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90.5;Metres. :mrgreen:

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Must the camera angle then because I was sure the French boat was bigger then the British one. Thanks for the info.

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"bateau d'escorte d'immigrants" ?! :mrgreen:

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Sized as they do not envisage ever carrying any. :mrgreen:

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We need a Bay on the EEZ boundary between the UK and France, to scoop up all the passengers and their boats into the well deck and safely return them to France. Even paint one in Coast Guard colours, and have some friendly Marines on hand to help out and support the Customs and Border Agency staff. Anyone with a legitimate asylum claim could even be processed on board.

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[VIDEO] Interview with the spokesman the French MoD. We discussed:
-France's unprecedented #investment in defense
-French strategy in the #IndoPacific region
-Consequences of #AUKUS

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World’s Newest Class Of Nuclear Attack Submarine: Rare Access Inside Suffren
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Leading Navies are secretive about the full capabilities of their submarines. In a rare privilege, Naval News has been allowed aboard the French Navy's (Marine Nationale) newest boat, Suffren. Here is what it is like to step inside a next generation nuclear-powered attack submarine.
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... submarine/

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Serious, and to my mind credible, allegations against the French and Egyptian armed forces in this article:

https://egypt-papers.disclose.ngo/en/ch ... tion-sirli

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France sells 12 used Rafales to Croatia

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Fortune favors brave sir, said Carrot cheerfully.
What's her position about heavily armed, well prepared and overmanned armies?
Oh, noone's ever heard of Fortune favoring them, sir.
According to General Tacticus, it's because they favor themselves…

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That has to be funded by very favourable French loans. I did think the F-16 was the front runner with either new build or rebuilt Viper variants on offer.

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Lord Jim wrote: 25 Nov 2021, 22:22 That has to be funded by very favourable French loans. I did think the F-16 was the front runner with either new build or rebuilt Viper variants on offer.
Nope. Croatia will fund this by normal loans on a market.
About F-16s, Viper was too costly and, more importantly, they could not be delivered before 2026, while current MiGs are allready under "atomic resources" artificially extended up to 2024, while Israeli F-16s carry a risk of another US ban on sale. Gripen was never really an option.
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What's her position about heavily armed, well prepared and overmanned armies?
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According to General Tacticus, it's because they favor themselves…

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Not meeting the in-service requirement I can understand, but the F-16V being more expensive then the Rafale is harder to swallow.

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Lord Jim wrote: 27 Nov 2021, 01:36 Not meeting the in-service requirement I can understand, but the F-16V being more expensive then the Rafale is harder to swallow.
More expensive for buying, not for later use. US offer was about 1,5 bln. while Rafale about 1,1 bln.
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Wondering why uae bought so many ? Are they feeling vulnerable and needing french looking after their backs so to speak ? But after saying that fair play to Rafale ,well done

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Je ne parle pas français. Where are they being built and timeline?

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