From what Iv seen the V-247 vigilant is pretty far along in testing the representative from Bell stated they are using the same engine and tilt rotor setup as they are on the V-280. Yes it hasn’t received a contract from the USMC yet but the work that has been done has come from in house funding.Timmymagic wrote:Think you're thinking of the V-280 Valor. The V-247 is in very early design phase and has not received a contract yet.Jake1992 wrote:With regard to the V-247 it’s already in late stage development and testing
https://www.janes.com/article/88335/nav ... -programme
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Nothing more than company funded preliminary studies I'm afraid. If they got a contract today the earliest it would hit service would be mid-2020's. For a fully operational, tested and trialed AEW V-247 you'd be looking at 2030.Jake1992 wrote:From what Iv seen the V-247 vigilant is pretty far along in testing the representative from Bell stated they are using the same engine and tilt rotor setup as they are on the V-280. Yes it hasn’t received a contract from the USMC yet but the work that has been done has come from in house funding.
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The document I read the spokes person was quoted as saying they are the the working prototype stage with the V-247.Timmymagic wrote:Nothing more than company funded preliminary studies I'm afraid. If they got a contract today the earliest it would hit service would be mid-2020's. For a fully operational, tested and trialed AEW V-247 you'd be looking at 2030.Jake1992 wrote:From what Iv seen the V-247 vigilant is pretty far along in testing the representative from Bell stated they are using the same engine and tilt rotor setup as they are on the V-280. Yes it hasn’t received a contract from the USMC yet but the work that has been done has come from in house funding.
I did say I could see them operational by 10 years so it matches pretty well with what you think.
Like I originally said though I think these would be the perfect naval compliment to the AEW upgrade to the old reapers
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Did China conduct the first test flight of its new JL-3 SLBM ?
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... jl-3-slbm/Several imageries and eyewitness accounts indicate that China likely conducted a missile launch on 2 June. Our colleagues from East Pendulum analyze the open source information and explain why the test could have involved the country’s next-generation submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM), the JL-3.
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China Launched 6 ASBM into the South China Sea
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... china-sea/Details on the recent (July 1st) Chinese Anti-Ship Ballistic Missile (ASBM) launches in the South China Sea are beginning to surface.
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China: End of the Type 071 LPD Program, Start of the Type 075 LHD One ?
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... 5-lhd-one/17 years after the start of the program, the construction of the 20,000 tons Type 071 landing platform dock (LPD) seems to be reaching its end after two lots of orders, 8 units in total. Construction of the Type 075 landing helicopter dock (LHD) and the design of a larger version (known as Type 075A), however, are just starting.
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Fortune favors brave sir, said Carrot cheerfully.
What's her position about heavily armed, well prepared and overmanned armies?
Oh, noone's ever heard of Fortune favoring them, sir.
According to General Tacticus, it's because they favor themselves…
What's her position about heavily armed, well prepared and overmanned armies?
Oh, noone's ever heard of Fortune favoring them, sir.
According to General Tacticus, it's because they favor themselves…
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Of course, what else? Z-18 and Z-20.Lord Jim wrote:I wonder if they will use their Super Frelon knock offs, the Z-8, from such a platform?
There are supposedly 3 of them in construction, two in docks and third in elements. It seems that they have intention to launch all 3 of them within 18 months.
Fortune favors brave sir, said Carrot cheerfully.
What's her position about heavily armed, well prepared and overmanned armies?
Oh, noone's ever heard of Fortune favoring them, sir.
According to General Tacticus, it's because they favor themselves…
What's her position about heavily armed, well prepared and overmanned armies?
Oh, noone's ever heard of Fortune favoring them, sir.
According to General Tacticus, it's because they favor themselves…
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A reuters mention from 3 hrs back:
"Trucks full of PLA soldiers rolled into Hong Kong within hours of the 1997 handover which ended British rule, raising questions about their role. They stage frequent drills but have seldom since been seen outside their bases. "
- well, the point made then was that the numbers were double of what had been agreed... just to make a point of what had been agreed was not so much (after it had been agreed and already implemented)
"Have seldom been seen outside their bases" . Take a look on utube now
"Trucks full of PLA soldiers rolled into Hong Kong within hours of the 1997 handover which ended British rule, raising questions about their role. They stage frequent drills but have seldom since been seen outside their bases. "
- well, the point made then was that the numbers were double of what had been agreed... just to make a point of what had been agreed was not so much (after it had been agreed and already implemented)
"Have seldom been seen outside their bases" . Take a look on utube now
Ever-lasting truths: Multi-year budgets/ planning by necessity have to address the painful questions; more often than not the Either-Or prevails over Both-And.
If everyone is thinking the same, then someone is not thinking (attributed to Patton)
If everyone is thinking the same, then someone is not thinking (attributed to Patton)
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Well China's at it again, stating bluntly that if the Queen Elizabeth Carrier Group approaching within 12 nautical miles of any Chinese Sovereign territory, read disputed islands, it will be considered a hostile act. Will our Politicians have the balls to continue with the planned deployment or will they show a lack of them and reroute the deployment? I wonder what a Labour Government would do if it got into power?
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Corbyn would not commit to deploying or not deploying the carrier group and then sell it to China along with the SSBN's
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Fortune favors brave sir, said Carrot cheerfully.
What's her position about heavily armed, well prepared and overmanned armies?
Oh, noone's ever heard of Fortune favoring them, sir.
According to General Tacticus, it's because they favor themselves…
What's her position about heavily armed, well prepared and overmanned armies?
Oh, noone's ever heard of Fortune favoring them, sir.
According to General Tacticus, it's because they favor themselves…
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Yeah, sorry, that's where I saw it.Blackstone wrote:Fair warning, that image can only be viewed by sinodefenceforum.com members.
Fortune favors brave sir, said Carrot cheerfully.
What's her position about heavily armed, well prepared and overmanned armies?
Oh, noone's ever heard of Fortune favoring them, sir.
According to General Tacticus, it's because they favor themselves…
What's her position about heavily armed, well prepared and overmanned armies?
Oh, noone's ever heard of Fortune favoring them, sir.
According to General Tacticus, it's because they favor themselves…
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Fortune favors brave sir, said Carrot cheerfully.
What's her position about heavily armed, well prepared and overmanned armies?
Oh, noone's ever heard of Fortune favoring them, sir.
According to General Tacticus, it's because they favor themselves…
What's her position about heavily armed, well prepared and overmanned armies?
Oh, noone's ever heard of Fortune favoring them, sir.
According to General Tacticus, it's because they favor themselves…
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It's a LHD, not a carrier.cky7 wrote:Is that their own design one? What is it stobar or full cats and traps? Never liked stobar myself, always saw it as having all the disadvantages of both catobar and STOVL and none of either’s advantages,,,,
Fortune favors brave sir, said Carrot cheerfully.
What's her position about heavily armed, well prepared and overmanned armies?
Oh, noone's ever heard of Fortune favoring them, sir.
According to General Tacticus, it's because they favor themselves…
What's her position about heavily armed, well prepared and overmanned armies?
Oh, noone's ever heard of Fortune favoring them, sir.
According to General Tacticus, it's because they favor themselves…
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Oops, didn’t bother to look at pic till you just told me and for some reason had it in my head that was one of their new carrier designations. They’re certainly churning out the ships at a hell of a rate in China. Just goes to show what can be done when you want to. Makes me think how much more expensive our ships end up being cos of the build rate being slowed from a potential of this to our multi year per ship rate....
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There it is
China Launches 1st Type 075 LHD for PLAN
China Launches 1st Type 075 LHD for PLAN
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... -for-plan/China's first amphibious assault ship, a Landing Helicopter Dock known as Type 075, was launched in Shanghai today.
The People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN or Chinese Navy), the customer of the vessel, said in a statement that after a brief ceremony starting at 9:20 am at a CSSC’s Hudong-Zhonghua shipyard, waters began to be pumped into a dry dock in which the ship’s hull was built.
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This is one big reason why western nations need to start taking defence a lot more seriously.inch wrote:Frightening how fast Won't be v long at this rate till China overtakes the USA in ship numbers in size and size of vessel ,we will all be singing to the Chinese tune very shortly I think even more so than at present
But good it does look like a good Ship I must say.