Vanguard Class Nuclear Ballistic Missile Submarine (SSBN) (RN)

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Pictures paint a thousand words I think

https://x.com/navylookout/status/170117 ... q02bHexwZA

As story to be told here wonder if we will ever hear it
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From link above ^
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(Navy Lookout/ Photos: @SheilaLWeir)11th September 2023
BZ and welcome home. Vanguard class submarine inbound to Falsane today after a patrol lasting more than 6 months.
I would guess with all that scum, she's been patrolling Southampton Water. :mrgreen:

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SKB wrote: 11 Sep 2023, 13:37 I would guess with all that scum she's been patrolling Southampton Water. :mrgreen:
Moving "Sherwood Forest" in the moss.
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Guzz Fuzz!

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Has she been operating in warmer waters? Or has the water just got warmer?

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Is this two in row?


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SW1 wrote: 20 Feb 2024, 22:08 Is this two in row?

I wonder if they have an actual source this time.

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And with the DS on board.

Not good.

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Poiuytrewq wrote: 20 Feb 2024, 22:31 And with the DS on board.

Not good.
Not a good look with the current world tensions

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SW1 wrote: 20 Feb 2024, 22:45
Poiuytrewq wrote: 20 Feb 2024, 22:31 And with the DS on board.

Not good.
Not a good look with the current world tensions
Perhaps another try very very soon would be a good idea.
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Poiuytrewq wrote: 20 Feb 2024, 22:55
SW1 wrote: 20 Feb 2024, 22:45
Poiuytrewq wrote: 20 Feb 2024, 22:31 And with the DS on board.

Not good.
Not a good look with the current world tensions
Perhaps another try very very soon would be a good idea.
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however we are confident that the anomaly was event specific, and therefore there are no implications for the reliability of the wider Trident missile systems and stockpile

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tomuk wrote: 20 Feb 2024, 23:16
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however we are confident that the anomaly was event specific, and therefore there are no implications for the reliability of the wider Trident missile systems and stockpile
Does that mean they let Grant Shapps press the button and it won’t happen again?
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Self destruct button?

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tomuk wrote: 20 Feb 2024, 23:16
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however we are confident that the anomaly was event specific, and therefore there are no implications for the reliability of the wider Trident missile systems and stockpile
If this is a 2nd failure of the system and given current world events, is this really a good enough response? :eh:

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Jdam wrote: 21 Feb 2024, 08:11
tomuk wrote: 20 Feb 2024, 23:16
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however we are confident that the anomaly was event specific, and therefore there are no implications for the reliability of the wider Trident missile systems and stockpile
If this is a 2nd failure of the system and given current world events, is this really a good enough response? :eh:
The translation is….we don’t have any funding allocated to test another one.

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Poiuytrewq wrote: 21 Feb 2024, 09:23
Jdam wrote: 21 Feb 2024, 08:11
tomuk wrote: 20 Feb 2024, 23:16
MOD quote
however we are confident that the anomaly was event specific, and therefore there are no implications for the reliability of the wider Trident missile systems and stockpile
If this is a 2nd failure of the system and given current world events, is this really a good enough response? :eh:
The translation is….we don’t have any funding allocated to test another one.
Or maybe: We don't dare to launch another one, because what if that one fails too? :think:
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Reminder. The American-made Trident missile failed, not the British made submarine that launched it.
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I suspect its a little of column a and a little of column b.

While I don't expect (and never want to see) any hard details on this, the "Trust me bro" reaction from the MOD does not inspire confidence.

In this day and age with lunatics invading their neighbors and considerable amounts of money being spent on this system I don't think its too much to ask for some reassurances.

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SKB wrote: 21 Feb 2024, 17:39 Reminder. The American-made Trident missile failed, not the British made submarine that launched it.
That's even worse.
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abc123 wrote: 21 Feb 2024, 20:27
SKB wrote: 21 Feb 2024, 17:39 Reminder. The American-made Trident missile failed, not the British made submarine that launched it.
That's even worse.
And don't forget they are British built warheads on top of the US missile.

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Is it unreasonable to expect a retest in the near future once the investigation has explained what went wrong on this test? We can't go another 7-8 years without a successful test fire to demonstrate the issues have been resolved when launching from a British sub.

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tomuk wrote: 21 Feb 2024, 22:16
abc123 wrote: 21 Feb 2024, 20:27
SKB wrote: 21 Feb 2024, 17:39 Reminder. The American-made Trident missile failed, not the British made submarine that launched it.
That's even worse.
And don't forget they are British built warheads on top of the US missile.
Hopefully not on the one that failed :lol:

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SKB wrote: 21 Feb 2024, 17:39 Reminder. The American-made Trident missile failed, not the British made submarine that launched it.
Listening to the def select committee that doesn't appear to be the case. The anomaly was specific to the the test not the sub or missile. Whatever that means.

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