Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Posted: 12 Oct 2021, 19:53
by Scimitar54
Ukrainian Gunboats perhaps ? Possibly also looking to fit something better on the ‘Carriers. It may be 40mm, or Laser weapons, or even spaces for (Quad Packed) 4 x Tube CAMM silos. You may remember that concern was expressed about the QEC Carriers lack of defence against Aircraft & Missiles about 12-24 Months ago.
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Posted: 12 Oct 2021, 20:19
by bobp
Looks like QE has left Signapore....
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Posted: 12 Oct 2021, 21:35
by PhillyJ
KiwiMuzz wrote:To my knowledge, they have never been fitted to Queen Elizabeth, unsure about Prince of Wales
I can confirm PWLS did not have any fitted.
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Posted: 13 Oct 2021, 15:34
by Wrekin1410
An interesting podcast on all aspects of operating an aircraft carrier. Just over an hour long but I found it well worth a lesson. Contributions from 3 RN flag officers and former carrier commanders including jerry Kydd.
Hope it is within forum rules to post here. If not please remove or drop me a message and I will.
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Posted: 18 Oct 2021, 10:50
by PhillyJ
Just for info if anyone in the area. Reds supposed to be arriving Wednesday about 1745, weather permitting. Big event on PWLS that day, nipper has to be in his nbr1's all day!
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Posted: 18 Oct 2021, 11:24
by Timmymagic
PhillyJ wrote: Big event on PWLS that day, nipper has to be in his nbr1's all day!
Thats the Pacific forum thing isn't it?
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Posted: 18 Oct 2021, 14:51
by PhillyJ
Timmymagic wrote:
PhillyJ wrote: Big event on PWLS that day, nipper has to be in his nbr1's all day!
Thats the Pacific forum thing isn't it?
Believe so, yep.
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
An interesting article...some valid points...and this...
"On that front, the experimental deployment of the Royal Navy’s Crowsnest airborne early warning system, on HMS Queen Elizabeth’s Merlin helicopters, appears to have fallen below expectations. That is not surprising given that Crowsnest was rushed into service for the CSG21 deployment. One solution could be simply to buy more F-35Bs. "
Not attributed to anyone, but as I've said before Crowsnest has been utterly absent from any RN media since it flew on...not one image seen of it on deck or in the air, and for a new capability that the RN would want to acknowledge in such a widely reported deployment is, lets be frank, unheard of. Past experience of the way MoD manages issues suggests that Crowsnest has had major problems on CSG21. I wouldn't be surprised if it had been hangar bound the entire time...hence the lack of shots of it even sat on deck...
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Posted: 24 Oct 2021, 18:28
by serge750
Sure i saw one taking of from HMS Queen Elizabeth's deck in a recent Video ? will have to try & find it now....
But i agree it is a bit strange on a well publicized deployment that more hasn't been seen
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Posted: 24 Oct 2021, 22:34
by dmereifield
Forgive my ignorance, but how could the solution be to buy more F35B?
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Posted: 25 Oct 2021, 00:06
by KiwiMuzz
dmereifield wrote:Forgive my ignorance, but how could the solution be to buy more F35B?
I think the inference is that F35 has such significant capabilities in terms of radar, electronic warfare, and data-linking/networking that they could feasibly remove the need for a separate ASaC platform.
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Posted: 25 Oct 2021, 00:27
by Jensy
serge750 wrote:Sure i saw one taking of from HMS Queen Elizabeth's deck in a recent Video ? will have to try & find it now....
But i agree it is a bit strange on a well publicized deployment that more hasn't been seen
There's a brief reference to Crowsnest "cutting its teeth" against Russian aircraft at 1:07 in the below video posted by RichardIC on the previous page:
Still rather odd that they haven't been showing off the capability. Could the demand for ASW fitted HM2s been found to outweigh the usefulness of IOC Crowsnest for much of deployment?