Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

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I used to work the line on Hawks, Tucanos and Jags back in the day. And i have been struggling as to how it is even possible not to notice the blanks have been left in?. I remember for example we used to accompany the aircrew on the walk around and we would remove the blanks in their presence, I particularly remember the engine intake blanks, they would always and without fail inspect the inside of the engine intakes after we or they had removed them. Also after engine start we would circle the aircraft (semi circle not passing the jet exhaust) doing aircraft surface control checks, removing chocks etc etc, so again you would of seen your fuk up then!! Not only that but the line walker who's job is to walk the line checking for safety issues would have immediately spotted this, but of course this never happened that I knew of.

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Given the above opinion, would a clutch failure on the lift turbine seem more likely ?

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Instead of a rain cover, could a bird have been ingested?

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A multitude of possibilities exist but the fact they continue to fly the aircraft suggest they know what caused it and it’s not something that requires fleet wide inspections and the aircraft’s airworthiness remains intact.

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Maybe the pilot forgot to put the handbrake on before increasing power and it rolled forward and he was unable to stop it.

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The story that a cover was left on an intake has to be very close to impossible. Just look at any video of a F35 launch from Queen Elizabeth, there are always deck crew present at both the 10 oclock and 2 oclock positions looking at the plane prior to launch, unless they have very poor eyesight surely they would notice ?
Also the engines wouldn't run up properly either, the pilot would never get to the stage of brake release

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djkeos wrote: 04 Dec 2021, 10:42
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Not forgetting the RFA either

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djkeos wrote: 04 Dec 2021, 10:42
When you consider both USS The Sullivans and HNLMS Evertsen who both spent at least seven months with UK CSG21, is that the first time foriegn warships have spent to long embedded with a RN force?

It was probably a relief to the capain and crew of HMS Queen Elizabeth given the (hopefully in the past) reliability issues of the T45 destroyers).

Maybe it is a sign of future deployments with smaller naval nations sending their Destroyers and Frigates to assist protecting US / UK / French carrier groups in prolonged deployments.

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I don't know if this has been posted elsewhere but obviously no one else got hold of it lol
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Huge apologies if I am posting this in the wrong thread but do any of you lovely people know when the QE is due back in Portsmouth? Pretty sure it is this week but have checked shipping movements and other online resources and can’t find any details. I’m keen to get down to Portsmouth to wave her in. Many thanks.

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Russtarr wrote: 08 Dec 2021, 09:18 Huge apologies if I am posting this in the wrong thread but do any of you lovely people know when the QE is due back in Portsmouth? Pretty sure it is this week but have checked shipping movements and other online resources and can’t find any details. I’m keen to get down to Portsmouth to wave her in. Many thanks.
Just spoke to nipper and he had heard tomorrow, however there is a no fly zone restriction in place for Friday over Pompey harbour so I guess it's probably then.

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That’s Amazing. Many thanks mate. Bet you can’t wait!!

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Russtarr wrote: 08 Dec 2021, 11:17 That’s Amazing. Many thanks mate. Bet you can’t wait!!
He is on PWLS, so has been back a while. Just checked QHM and it is indeed tomorrow that she returns.

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Glad they recovered the jet. I assume is a complete write off but wonder if anything can even be salvaged for spares. If it sank 1km down the pressure on the airframe prob mean nothing would be reusable.

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Glad we recovered the jet, it would be the height of embarrassment if it landed in the hands of someone else.

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BB85 wrote: 08 Dec 2021, 13:40 Glad they recovered the jet. I assume is a complete write off but wonder if anything can even be salvaged for spares. If it sank 1km down the pressure on the airframe prob mean nothing would be reusable.

I think the corrosive sea water that came within all the internals would have done that’, maybe the frame is salvageable but would it be worth the expense to replace all operating system, be cheaper just build another

I had a 4wd suffer the indignation of being swallowed by the drink in my younger days (Fraser Island) to my amazement it still worked with a bit of a flush, but it caused me nothing but grief with the following corrosion over the years to the point I gave up on it

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Gate guardian or training aid perhaps?

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The plane was found in multiple pieces according to the telegraph.............

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/w ... d=msedgntp

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QE will return home to Portsmouth today at 15:20!
HMS Defender at 09:00 and HMS Diamond at 10:00
https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/qhm/portsm ... 09/12/2021

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1st May 2021 to 9th December 2021 = 222 days, or 7 months 8 days.

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What a journey she has been on, fantastic results and great job from all involved. :thumbup:

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