Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

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Looks like HT tomorrow is 1030ish, in case anyone down and about Pompey at that time. :shh:

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Also onboard QE during the Atlantic Forum event....the GA-ASI Mojave in RN markings...

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Mojave is a great opportunity, much better than Protector at least. At least, it is worth intensive trial. If good handling method be established, it will provide
1: long duration over the horizon radar cover to surface ship targets
2: probable ESM capability over the horizon
3: can be also used with ASW pod with sonobuoy and its transducer, to provide long-range sonar coverage.

Item-3, may or may not be able to hunt enemy sub, but, occasional pinging with active sonobuoy supported by several passive sonobuoys will significantly "suppress" the activity of SSK/SSNs. They need to avoid the area, needs maneuver and taking time. As they know there are ear around, they cannot sprint. Not bad, I think?

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I should have noted it before.

But its worth remembering that Mojave wouldn't be the model selected for carrier use.

GA-ASI have another concept that takes Protector and adds a Mojave like STOL wing, albeit with longer wingspan, that also folds to get the full naval solution.

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KHM Portsmouth shows PoW to leave Portsmouth at 10:50 on Friday 7th October 2022.
https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/khm/portsm ... 07/10/2022
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Timmymagic wrote: 06 Oct 2022, 16:13 I should have noted it before.

But its worth remembering that Mojave wouldn't be the model selected for carrier use.

GA-ASI have another concept that takes Protector and adds a Mojave like STOL wing, albeit with longer wingspan, that also folds to get the full naval solution.
I prefer Mojave. Simply because of stronger leg. It will be able to land with less speed = higher sink. Landing is the most difficult point in carrier operation. Next is the lift off.

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donald_of_tokyo wrote: 06 Oct 2022, 16:34 I prefer Mojave. Simply because of stronger leg. It will be able to land with less speed = higher sink. Landing is the most difficult point in carrier operation. Next is the lift off.
From the video they've shown of Mojave's STOL performance with the smaller wing I don't think landing on the deck of a carrier steaming at 20+ knots with wind over the deck will be the slightest issue at all. That larger wing will improve things even more. I suspect it would land on like a Swordfish used to...almost struggling to get on the deck..

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Mojave is here now so can be used/tested now. The protector concept is still in development so can’t be used now. It’s really that simple.
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SKB wrote: 06 Oct 2022, 16:23 KHM Portsmouth shows PoW to leave Portsmouth at 10:50 on Friday 7th October 2022.
https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/khm/portsm ... 07/10/2022
Nipper on S1 duty, so 'on point' I guess!

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Well, looks like it is scrubbed again. No longer on KHM and diving going on around her tomorrow. It is still a tad windy down here, wonder if that impacted her going out with one engine only?

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2255 now, think I'll give it a miss!
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/1 ... new-fault/

HMS Prince of Wales’ departure has been delayed once more after a “crack” was found in part of the aircraft carrier’s machinery.

The warship should have left for Scotland this morning but was postponed after a crack was found in the fuel hose which leads to one of its generators.

A Royal Navy source told The Telegraph that she is now likely to sail at 10pm tonight and stressed that the latest problem was “an unrelated defect to the shaft”.

They added: "if it wasn't for the shaft, it would just be a 12 hr delay”, admitting that “it doesn't help the messaging”.

The Navy has not commented on how long the repairs at Rosyth are expected to take and how long HMS Prince of Wales will be absent from its role as Nato flagship, but it is understood it will be months rather than weeks.

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They've got a bit further this time out...White Cliffs on the horizon.
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Wishing her Bon voyage and a prompt return!
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SW1 wrote: 07 Oct 2022, 17:01The Navy has not commented on how long the repairs at Rosyth are expected to take and how long HMS Prince of Wales will be absent from its role as Nato flagship, but it is understood it will be months rather than weeks.
She was due in Rosyth next year anyhow, I would hope that whatever she was due for then, could be included in this 'unscheduled' trip.
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Anyone have any idea how long PoW may be in Rosyth? 3 months, 6 months, longer. Maybe we should run a sweepstake..

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Take your builder's estimate, double it and then add another 10% for snagging.
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I see her AIS is now active, she is just outside Rosyth, waiting for the mammoth task of getting her into dry dock.
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Daylight high tides at Rosyth:-
Monday 10th 16:00
Tuesday 11th 16:39
Wednesday 12th 17:15
Thursday 13th 17:50
Friday 14th 06:08 & 18:23.
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She seems to be moving quick enough on one shaft. :lolno:

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From the latest Navy Lookout article on the Type 45s.

(The highly unusual muff coupling failure experienced by HMS Prince of Wales is a one-off mechanical issue and the QEC propulsion has otherwise proved to be both efficient and reliable).

Looking forward to seeing the photos.

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(Jim Ramsay) 10th October 2022
HMS Prince of Wales aircraft carrier sailed under the three Forth Bridges at 09:30am (low tide)


(Jim Ramsay) 10th October 2022
The Aircraft Carrier HMS Prince of Wales transited under The Forth Bridges on Monday 10th October 2022

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