Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

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Anti Carrier articles from the press, is it really that time of year again? :yawn:

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If they truly believe the tripe that they write or print, they really ought to leave voluntarily, or be exiled! After all the UK is famously an “unsinkable aircraft carrier”. :lol:

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DT usual rubbish story, do agree that a few more Helicopters and F35B would be nice to have.

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It’s really interesting that the navy bots and there online cheers leaders that so championed the change way back in 2010 and where so rabit anti anything but the navy are now the ones poo pooing such an idea being expressed today even though they changed the titles they write under today.

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“Bots”, “Poo Pooing”! If it sounds like S****e, then you know what ……….. it probably is S****e. :lol:

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SW1 wrote: 17 Jul 2022, 17:36 It’s really interesting that the navy bots and there online cheers leaders that so championed the change way back in 2010 and where so rabit anti anything but the navy are now the ones poo pooing such an idea being expressed today even though they changed the titles they write under today.
Who exactly championed the change? Please do explain. Personal view - whatever the theoretical pros and cons, once yr five/six years into a complex engineering project that’s not the time to be removing 700 tonnes of steel from one end of the vessel cutting four deep grooves in the deck and radically upgrading power generation
capacity.
Bear in mind there has never been a cats and traps ship powered by GTs

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SD67 wrote: 17 Jul 2022, 21:38
SW1 wrote: 17 Jul 2022, 17:36 It’s really interesting that the navy bots and there online cheers leaders that so championed the change way back in 2010 and where so rabit anti anything but the navy are now the ones poo pooing such an idea being expressed today even though they changed the titles they write under today.
Who exactly championed the change? Please do explain. Personal view - whatever the theoretical pros and cons, once yr five/six years into a complex engineering project that’s not the time to be removing 700 tonnes of steel from one end of the vessel cutting four deep grooves in the deck and radically upgrading power generation
capacity.
Bear in mind there has never been a cats and traps ship powered by GTs
The idea of changing was idiotic! It didn’t however stop the Royal Navy pushing it and getting it selected for sdsr2010. That was then championed by all the online pro naval media, you could care to mention from the phoenix think tank crowd to save the Royal Navy to WIFR you name it. It was the best decision ever interoperability with the US navy and all! Then reality hit! and it was everyone else’s fault why it was being switched back!

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Bear in mind there has never been a cats and traps ship powered by GTs

The idea of changing was idiotic! It didn’t however stop the Royal Navy pushing it and getting it selected for sdsr2010. That was then championed by all the online pro naval media
Interesting that this blows up again... as, officially ;) , the whole going round roundabouts only! cost us 70 mln £s. :?:

Now, who can find :ugeek: the members of the All-Electric Ship mafia... who have cost us umpteen millions :idea: more? - and who can say what the end bill is (with so any days at sea missed, by the the Navy's -until now - most potent assets)??
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When is this new documentary going to be aired QE world tour , must be over due now

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inch wrote: 18 Jul 2022, 10:30 When is this new documentary going to be aired QE world tour , must be over due now
Wikipedia says a six part BBC2 series called "Strike Carrier" is in production by Chris Terrill, the same person who produced the two Britain's Biggest Warship series. There's no transmission date listed yet.
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Some Crowsnest news. Nipper on holiday at the moment, he is moving into married quarters with his long term girlfriend at the end of the month, have to be in and settled before end of August. :silent:
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Isn't POW off to the Eastern US in Sep

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Tempest414 wrote: 21 Jul 2022, 16:55 Isn't POW off to the Eastern US in Sep
Indeed, he is looking forward to his trip to the US.
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PoW should be due for her first dry-docking in 2023 as she'll have been floating for five years since float-out on 21st December 2017.
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SKB wrote: 26 Jul 2022, 11:53 PoW should be due for her first dry-docking in 2023 as she'll have been floating for five years since float-out on 21st December 2017.
Indeed, nipper is cock-a-hoop for returning to the place where his journey began on PWLS! 🤫
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Bring Deeps wrote: 10 Jul 2022, 11:45Any thoughts on what the war in Ukraine means for the future use of the QNLZ class, what lessons have been learnt/relearnt and what assumptions need to change?
It brings into focus the change from counter-terrorist operations and chasing different groups around in various countries, into near-peer conflicts with far larger and organised nations.

Both European and Pacific strategic areas & forces need to be considered & QE class coming on-stream is very well timed for this.
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SW1 wrote: 17 Jul 2022, 22:21 The idea of changing was idiotic! It didn’t however stop the Royal Navy pushing it and getting it selected for sdsr2010. That was then championed by all the online pro naval media, you could care to mention from the phoenix think tank crowd to save the Royal Navy to WIFR you name it. It was the best decision ever interoperability with the US navy and all! Then reality hit! and it was everyone else’s fault why it was being switched back!
My recollection was the only notable person pushing it was the execrable Dr Liam Fox. Now he might have been justified in asking for the briefest of feasibiity studies given the issues with the B variant at the time as part of a risk mitigation process, but the actions he took ended up costing us c£150m...

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Hmm....?!

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SKB wrote: 29 Jul 2022, 11:24
Hmm....?!
Its excited :o

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Seems PWLS may have scuppered another ex- Capt of hers. Bits on twitter about previous behaviour of said officer inviting lone females into his quarters for personal mentoring, nipper said they had heard the rumours, but didn't believe them.

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Was that the same one that attended the Downing street Lockdown parties?

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SW1 wrote: 05 Aug 2022, 13:36 Was that the same one that attended the Downing street Lockdown parties?
Certainly was.
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Interesting clips of the Mojave drone based on the Predator. 300 feet to take off, 300 feet to land. No mention of payload but makes you wonder, could it use a ski ramp 🤔



Edit..........Just ignore me. This has already been posted in the RAF Predator thread.
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Was round nippers new married quarters last night (he's not married but in a long term relationship with his girlfriend) , despite all the horror stories about service homes, they've lucked out. 2 bed flat, all redecorated before they moved in, nice sized rooms.

Anyhow, he will only have about a couple of weeks to settle in, window for leaving for the US opens Friday 26th.
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(Royal Navy) 16th August 2017
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