Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Contains threads on Royal Navy equipment of the past, present and future.
User avatar
SKB
Senior Member
Posts: 7177
Joined: 30 Apr 2015, 18:35
England

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Post by SKB »

Building Britain's Ultimate Warship
(Click the "Watch On YouTube" link!)

(Channel 4/ITN) 31 May 2010
Documentary with unprecedented access to the construction of the Royal Navy's newest destroyer, the £1billion HMS Daring, Britain's first new warship for 25 years. The programme follows the process of building the vessel in three different locations with the latest techniques and testing its vast array of weapons. Maritime experts discuss the significance of the ship to the UK's defences, and cameras go behind the scenes on the official launch that brings royalty to Glasgow.

RNFollower
Member
Posts: 46
Joined: 10 Jul 2015, 22:06
United Kingdom

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Post by RNFollower »

Is there any update on Diamond?

Digger22
Member
Posts: 286
Joined: 27 May 2015, 16:47
England

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Post by Digger22 »

And what about Dauntless? Last I heard was some awards being handed out to crew members, after they moved back on board, but very quiet since.

User avatar
SKB
Senior Member
Posts: 7177
Joined: 30 Apr 2015, 18:35
England

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Post by SKB »



donald_of_tokyo
Senior Member
Posts: 4171
Joined: 06 May 2015, 13:18
Japan

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Post by donald_of_tokyo »

Interesting, but, not so big meanings?


Caribbean
Senior Member
Posts: 2323
Joined: 09 Jan 2016, 19:08
United Kingdom

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Post by Caribbean »

Fairly niche, I guess, but I can see where the ability to push your AEW radar cover a bit further out than expected and sustain it there for a period, might come in handy
The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.
Winston Churchill

donald_of_tokyo
Senior Member
Posts: 4171
Joined: 06 May 2015, 13:18
Japan

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Post by donald_of_tokyo »

Good news. HMS Diamond, back at work. Want to know what kind of defect has caused the issue.


Scimitar54
Senior Member
Posts: 1223
Joined: 13 Jul 2015, 05:10
United Kingdom

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Post by Scimitar54 »

Where bound ?

Caribbean
Senior Member
Posts: 2323
Joined: 09 Jan 2016, 19:08
United Kingdom

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Post by Caribbean »

Hopefully to catch up with the CSG. Presumably it'll take the most direct route and not bother to go too far out of it's way to avoid those pesky islands in the SCS
The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.
Winston Churchill

SW1
Senior Member
Posts: 2666
Joined: 27 Aug 2018, 19:12
United Kingdom

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Post by SW1 »


User avatar
SKB
Senior Member
Posts: 7177
Joined: 30 Apr 2015, 18:35
England

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Post by SKB »

HMS Daring (D32) leaves Portsmouth for Cammell Laird

(WarshipCam) 15th September 2021
HMS Daring (D32) Daring-class air defence destroyer leaving under tow from Portsmouth, England and headed to Cammell Laird for her Power Improvement Project (PIP)
HMS Daring left Victory Jetty today at 12:30 under tow of tug Fairplay-27.

However, her S1850M long range radar array is missing....
Image

Digger22
Member
Posts: 286
Joined: 27 May 2015, 16:47
England

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Post by Digger22 »

Look forward to the day she can Sail under her own power again, and can be, hopefully, declared fully operational too.

Jdam
Member
Posts: 480
Joined: 09 May 2015, 22:26
United Kingdom

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Post by Jdam »

Didn't Dauntless radar get an upgrade during the PIP as well?

Ron5
Donator
Posts: 6273
Joined: 05 May 2015, 21:42
United States of America

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Post by Ron5 »

SKB wrote:However, her SM1850M long range radar array is missing....
Goddam dockies jacked it :D

Ron5
Donator
Posts: 6273
Joined: 05 May 2015, 21:42
United States of America

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Post by Ron5 »

Jdam wrote:Didn't Dauntless radar get an upgrade during the PIP as well?
Sampson did, don't know about the SM1850.

Lord Jim
Senior Member
Posts: 6196
Joined: 10 Dec 2015, 02:15
United Kingdom

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Post by Lord Jim »

Do the T-45s actually need the SM1850. I am sure I read somewhere that Sampson has the ability to match the capabilities of that radar as well as its other roles.

Jdam
Member
Posts: 480
Joined: 09 May 2015, 22:26
United Kingdom

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Post by Jdam »

Surprised I remembered it to be honest.

Thales Completes HMS Dauntless S1850M Long Range Radar Overhaul
The Royal Navy HMS Dauntless Type 45 destroyer's S1850M Long Range Radar has been officially completely revised since last week. The overhaul was part of the ship's "Upkeep 2020" program and included a digital "factory acceptance test" (FAT), Thales said in a March 17 release
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... -overhaul/

I suspect that is where Daring's S1850M radar is currently.

KiwiMuzz
Member
Posts: 42
Joined: 01 Jul 2021, 06:20
New Zealand

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Post by KiwiMuzz »

Lord Jim wrote:Do the T-45s actually need the SM1850. I am sure I read somewhere that Sampson has the ability to match the capabilities of that radar as well as its other roles.
My understanding is that SM1850 is used to take the long-range search load away from Sampson, allowing Sampson to focus it's processing power on fire control.

tomuk
Member
Posts: 334
Joined: 20 Dec 2017, 20:24
United Kingdom

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Post by tomuk »

KiwiMuzz wrote:
Lord Jim wrote:Do the T-45s actually need the SM1850. I am sure I read somewhere that Sampson has the ability to match the capabilities of that radar as well as its other roles.
My understanding is that SM1850 is used to take the long-range search load away from Sampson, allowing Sampson to focus it's processing power on fire control.
Yep quite correct the S1850M shares the load with Sampson. The T45 only needing Sampson is a bit of BAE boasting. S1850M is an L band radar so inherently due to physics has a longer range than the S band Sampson. Ideally you would also fit an X band radar for better close in detail/coverage.

Ron5
Donator
Posts: 6273
Joined: 05 May 2015, 21:42
United States of America

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Post by Ron5 »

The story goes that the T45 design couldn't meet the rather tough requirement of being able to control several multi-aircraft engagements (fighter control) without a second radar. Not mentioned a lot but aircraft direction is an important part of the T45 duties.

Lord Jim
Senior Member
Posts: 6196
Joined: 10 Dec 2015, 02:15
United Kingdom

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Post by Lord Jim »

Thanks for the info everyone.

User avatar
Ianmb17
Member
Posts: 114
Joined: 01 May 2015, 21:33
United Kingdom

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Post by Ianmb17 »

DSEI 2021: CAMM To Up Firepower For Type 45 Destroyers

https://www.navalnews.com/event-news/ds ... estroyers/

Jdam
Member
Posts: 480
Joined: 09 May 2015, 22:26
United Kingdom

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Post by Jdam »

The first Type 45 destroyer to receive the SV-CAMM fit is scheduled to have completed its upgrade by the start of 2027. All six ships of the class are planned to have received the SV-CAMM installation by the end of 2032.
When is the out of service date for the 45's again?

User avatar
Poiuytrewq
Senior Member
Posts: 2152
Joined: 15 Dec 2017, 10:25
United Kingdom

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Post by Poiuytrewq »

Jdam wrote:
The first Type 45 destroyer to receive the SV-CAMM fit is scheduled to have completed its upgrade by the start of 2027. All six ships of the class are planned to have received the SV-CAMM installation by the end of 2032.
When is the out of service date for the 45's again?
A full 11 years to fit CAMM to the T45's....the glacial pace of change continues.

As far as the T45 OSD is concerned, BAE really needs to be cutting steel on the T83's within a decade or another production gap will need to be bridged.

This would allow Daring to decommission in the early 2040's.

Scimitar54
Senior Member
Posts: 1223
Joined: 13 Jul 2015, 05:10
United Kingdom

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Post by Scimitar54 »

10 Years From Build to Commissioning ! That just about takes the (Ships) biscuit. :mrgreen:

Post Reply