Cyprus SBA - Sovereign Base Areas

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They'd be fucked if we left.

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How are the two the same thing?

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Belfast firm Lagan Construction lands £40m work on global airports
The company, part of Lagan Construction Group, will carry out work in Gibraltar and Cyprus for Defence Infrastructure Organisation - with the work valued at a combined £31m.
In Cyprus, Lagan Construction International will work in a joint venture with Iacovou Brothers on RAF Akrotiri base in Cyprus, with work to be finished by January 2017.
It completed an earlier airport project at RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus in 1998.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/busin ... 98485.html

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Not big money, but more proof that the MoD has seen the light (?)
- St. Helena airport (nothing to do with them, directly)... after having been one or two times cancelled
- RN facility in Bahrain expanded (though still all of it is within the US base's razor wire)
- a port for the QEs (in Oman) where they can turn better than in their home base
- and now these two

Jungle school "transfer" - were there two before? - from Belize to Brunei also makes strategic (presence) sense.
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Migrant Crisis: Boats Land at UK Base RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus
A number of boats carrying dozens of migrants, including children, have landed at the RAF base at Akrotiri in Cyprus, the Ministry of Defence says.

It is thought there were about 140 people on board, but their country of origin has not yet been established.

It is believed to be the first time during the current Mediterranean migrant crisis that people have arrived on UK sovereign territory.

The MoD said responsibility for them rested with the Cypriot authorities.
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Cameron Offers France Use of RAF Base for ISIS Raids
David Cameron has offered François Hollande the use of Britain’s RAF airbase on Cyprus from which to launch airstrikes against Islamic State militants in Syria in the wake of the attacks on Paris.

Speaking alongside the French president at the Élysée Palace, Cameron said: “The United Kingdom will do all in its our power to support our friend and ally France to defeat this evil death cult.”
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one of our many static aircraft carriers :D
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yes, hadn't realised the use of the bases offered was actually in a back-up role:

"Cyprus did not object when Britain offered France the use of RAF Akrotiri last week to help refuel French fighters and serve as a reserve diversion airfield for jets operating from a French aircraft carrier."
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Cyprus: Politics and Government:Written question - HL5315
Asked by Lord Kilclooney
Asked on: 21 January 2016
To ask Her Majesty’s Government what consideration they have given to releasing parts of one or both of the Sovereign Base Areas in Cyprus to facilitate a political settlement on the island.
Answered by: Earl Howe
Answered on: 29 January 2016

The UK will continue to support the efforts of President Anastasiades and Mr Akinci to reunite Cyprus through a just and lasting settlement. The UK has made a generous offer that, as part of a comprehensive settlement, we will cede a significant proportion of the land mass of the Sovereign Base Areas. However, the Sovereign Base Areas continue to have a significant operational value for defence that is expected to endure for the long term.
http://www.parliament.uk/business/publi ... 21/HL5315/

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RAF Akrotiri:Written question - 42072

Asked by Mr Nigel Evans
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what his long-term plans are for the operation and use of RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus.
Answered by: Penny Mordaunt
RAF Akrotiri has performed a vital strategic function in support of operations over many years and continues to fulfil that function today including in support of operations in Iraq and Syria. We expect RAF Akrotiri to remain an essential element of the UK's overseas presence for years to come.
http://www.parliament.uk/business/publi ... -06/42072/

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has the situation in Turkey caused any issues in cyprus either for the Garrison or the UN operation?

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DIO manages the water supply to the Western Sovereign Base Area on Cyprus, which includes RAF Akrotiri and Episkopi Garrison.

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Why do we use Griffons in Cyprus. Is not a type we use anywhere else & seems a tad wasteful.

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Brunei?
Dahedd wrote:Why do we use Griffons in Cyprus. Is not a type we use anywhere else & seems a tad wasteful.

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Bell 212's in Brunei. Contractor owned. AAC pays for the flight hours and then bills the Sultan.

Bell 412's in Cyprus. Contractor owned. RAF pays for the flight hours and then bills the M.O.D.

Or something very similar?

Military using aircraft they haven't forked out for equals cost saving.




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