Repulse wrote: ↑20 Sep 2023, 07:56
Poiuytrewq wrote: ↑19 Sep 2023, 23:28
As for up-arming. Not a priority. Leave the investment for the T31’s.
Same argument can be made in why spend the money on the T31, spend it on more T26s.
No one should be under the illusion that these are anything more than patrol vessels for low threat environments. However, it is ridiculous how people are fearful to spend a few million to cheaply upgrade the B2s to bring them inline with USCG or other similar vessels, in case they show the T31 in its original form the folly it is.
Upgrade the T31, do whatever is needed to make them war fighting ships that can add value, but realise they are a stop gap only needed because successive governments delayed the T23 replacement.
To solve the issues the RN and other services have, a bud dose of realism is required - keep the B2s (with minor upgrades) where they are, they are doing a great job.
I don't argue against modest sensible upgrades for the rivers, I just point out the utter spiel that Nicholas Drummond is spitting.
they think that these are warships, and thus should have the whole fitt out, which I point out is utter folly.
Yes, I also see the need for T31 reaching it's potential.
The future frigate programme started in 1998. The first T26 comes into service 2028. T31 programme restarted 2019, conract signed the same year. If that doesn't signal that T31 is a stopgap for the T26's troubles, I don't know what is.