Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)

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Defiance wrote:That graphic dates back to 2018, it came out around the same time as the Tempest concept got revealed
Yes. Was pointing to the evolution of early 90s concepts > Replica > Tempest

As I said above, the Typhoon was not even named at this time, and the X-35 was barely a blink in the eye of the design team at Skunk Works.

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Merely highlighting some context of the graphic, nothing more

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Defiance wrote:Merely highlighting some context of the graphic, nothing more
Fair play. :thumbup:

Would have taken a screen shot instead but had that graphic on hand.

No doubt up at Warton there's all manner of fascinating clues to UK aircraft design development carried out over the last 30 years. Sadly unlikely to ever see the light of day.

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I believe that's ZJ914, the first of the Tranche 1s painted for the aggressor role. Which is evidently not now going ahead.

Some irony to a soon to be scrapped aircraft being painted up like this. Literally papering over the gaps with the Union Flag...

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(Forces News) 28th May 2021
RAF Coningsby has revealed a newly-decorated Typhoon donning the Union Flag – the first of its kind to be painted all around the aircraft. The Typhoon performed a display over the RAF base, but it was just a taste of what’s to come as it has been signed up for around 30 air shows around the world this yea
Paint or vinyl wrap?

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I love the union jack but think it would go better with the standard Grey scheme :thumbup:

Obviously this was the best scheme 8-)

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I love this for no other reason than it triggered the Scottish separatist twats on Twatter.

...the jet should be flown over their houses, every fucking day.

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Cooper wrote:I love this for no other reason than it triggered the Scottish separatist twats on Twatter.

...the jet should be flown over their houses, every fucking day.
I await it flying over my house if it visits Lossie. Fair few houses it could do repeated low passes over to piss folk off :lol:

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https://armadainternational.com/2021/06 ... sive-fire/


The Royal Air Force is once again embracing the air defence suppression mission courtesy of two fledgling capabilities expected to enter service this decade.

The good news is that the RAF will soon be back in the air defence suppression game, thanks to two new capabilities it is expected to receive in the future. The first is an electronic attack function to augment the new BAE Systems/Leonardo ECRS Mk.2 X-band (8.5GHz to 10.68GHz) fire control radar destined to equip the Tranche-3 variants of the RAF’s Eurofighter Typhoon FGR.4 combat aircraft. The second is the MBDA Select Precision Effects At Range Capability-Electronic Warfare (SPEAR-EW) loitering electronic attack system. Both effectively perform a similar function to ALARM but do so electronically.

The advent of both will not only resurrect RAF SEAD capabilities, but improve them immeasurably from the days of ALARM for the wars of tomorrow. Harnessing electronic effects to substitute kinetic effects when possible enhances precision, reduces ordnance expenditure and lowers the risk of collateral damage. It also improves the ability of the RAF to manoeuvre in the spectrum to achieve electromagnetic superiority and supremacy, something indispensable to success in all domains of warfare.

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SPEAR-EW on F35 will be exceptional.

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Tinman wrote:SPEAR-EW on F35 will be exceptional.
As will Meteor on F-35 despite those that argue against it.

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Surely the UK needs Meteor on the F-35 as part of the Carrier Strike Groups layered air defence? If it doesn't carry it it will be like have very advanced Harrier GR9s only on the carriers, very capable mud movers and capable of limited self defence, but relying far too heavily on their stealth capability to be able to complete their missions. If detected they would be in serious trouble against an opponent with longer range latest gen. AAMs. By default they really should be carrying 2 Meteor in their internal bays regardless of whatever else they are carrying, either that or they need escorting by UAVs carrying Meteor but I haven't seen anything down that route yet. Would be interesting though come to think of it, and should be relatively easy once a "Wingman" platform is developed. These could also act with Typhoon until TEMPEST takes over.

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A new protocol required for alpha scrambles, step one move the pm and the press corp :lol:


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Lord Jim wrote:Surely the UK needs Meteor on the F-35 as part of the Carrier Strike Groups layered air defence? If it doesn't carry it it will be like have very advanced Harrier GR9s only on the carriers, very capable mud movers and capable of limited self defence, but relying far too heavily on their stealth capability to be able to complete their missions. If detected they would be in serious trouble against an opponent with longer range latest gen. AAMs. By default they really should be carrying 2 Meteor in their internal bays regardless of whatever else they are carrying, either that or they need escorting by UAVs carrying Meteor but I haven't seen anything down that route yet. Would be interesting though come to think of it, and should be relatively easy once a "Wingman" platform is developed. These could also act with Typhoon until TEMPEST takes over.
Tinman begs to differ.

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Ron5 wrote:By default they really should be carrying 2 Meteor in their internal bays regardless of whatever else they are carrying
Why?

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Because the F-35 is supposed to be a swing role platform. How often does an F-16, F-18, Typhoon, Rafale not carry BVR missiles on an attack mission? Usually they are carrying both WVR and BVR, but the F-35 will carry the former under its wings rather than internally.

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Ron5 wrote:
Lord Jim wrote:Surely the UK needs Meteor on the F-35 as part of the Carrier Strike Groups layered air defence? If it doesn't carry it it will be like have very advanced Harrier GR9s only on the carriers, very capable mud movers and capable of limited self defence, but relying far too heavily on their stealth capability to be able to complete their missions. If detected they would be in serious trouble against an opponent with longer range latest gen. AAMs. By default they really should be carrying 2 Meteor in their internal bays regardless of whatever else they are carrying, either that or they need escorting by UAVs carrying Meteor but I haven't seen anything down that route yet. Would be interesting though come to think of it, and should be relatively easy once a "Wingman" platform is developed. These could also act with Typhoon until TEMPEST takes over.
Tinman begs to differ.
I simply suggested that there are issues other than what's in the public domain, the defence secretary and trade secretary are override America as I type this, so let's just wait and see and stop believing everything that's reported as gospel.

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Lord Jim wrote:Because the F-35 is supposed to be a swing role platform. How often does an F-16, F-18, Typhoon, Rafale not carry BVR missiles on an attack mission? Usually they are carrying both WVR and BVR, but the F-35 will carry the former under its wings rather than internally.

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Dependingon the role, the F35 over Syria and Iraq, are not operating as true LO, they also have their radar emitters transmitting due to the amount of deconfliction needed. If it was bombing downtown Tehran it would be clean, internal weapons only and full “bat mode” switched on.

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The Israelis went into Syria in full "Bat", mode. For the RAF using the F-35 simply gives the Pilots operational experience in a limited way whilst using the F-35, the effect on the ground is little different than if we were using a Typhoon. We may not be using its full capabilities but experience is experience.

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You know what to do with the lame ducks :mrgreen:

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I really hope the RAF maintains a constant series of rolling upgrades for both its Tranche 2 and 3 Typhoons and doesn't get left behind other users, like what happened with out E-3s. Having such upgrades in RAF service will help exports so a deal could be struck with Eurofighter in theory. We also need to have our Tranche 2 and 3 Typhoons at the same standard and not have fleets within fleets. The fleet should also start benefiting from discoveries made within the TEMPEST programme as well, which could mean the UK operating the most advanced versions of the fighter. One can live in hope.

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