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Wonder if Russia will try sell India admiral kuznetsov carrier and that's the Russia bid now mmh that's a possibility if Russia is going to get rid of her ?

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^ Project 23000E "Storm"

Russia's design for the world's largest, nuclear powered, twin island, double ski-jump ramped aircraft carrier.

It is not known if her escort tug will also be nuclear powered.
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What will they be calling it, Chernobyl? :mrgreen:

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inch wrote:Wonder if Russia will try sell India admiral kuznetsov carrier
Or buy back :D the one that has been refurbed to operate the same Migs that Kuz has/had?
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I think India would be daft to for many reasons, including IAC 1 sea trials to start in 2020 which is 2 carriers, how long would it take to build IAC 2 ? maybe 2030 ? ( if they did go for a CATOBAR QE carrier, fingers crossed ) which would make 3, im sure they would keep the refurbed kiev carrier going till then, look how long Hermes went on for !

If they wanted a 3rd carrier to replace the Refurbed kiev class it would make more sense to go with the IAC 2 design again, maybe by 2035 they could have 2 x CATOBAR and a STOBAR in rotation which would be a formidable force.

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SKB wrote:Image
^ Project 23000E "Storm"

Russia's design for the world's largest, nuclear powered, twin island, double ski-jump ramped aircraft carrier.

It is not known if her escort tug will also be nuclear powered.
:lol:
I expect that model's the largest aircraft carrier that Russia will field for the foreseeable future. :lolno:

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That model is as near to a real ship as they will get. The chances are the same as Japan building a real Space Battleship Yamato.

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MDL Launched 3rd Visakhapatnam-class Project 15B Destroyer for Indian Navy
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Admiral Sunil Lanba, Chief of the Naval Staff, launched the third ship of Project 15B, Guided Missile Destroyer "Imphal", today (20 April 2019) at Mazagon Dock Shipbuilders Limited in Mumbai.
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... dian-navy/

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I always find the design of warships built in India interesting due to their amalgamations of technologies from all over. Saying that both Barak 8 and BrahMos do appear to be very effective weapon systems, the latter being equal to anything developed in Europe of the USA.

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Can't imagine that the Indians will be in a rush to get another Ruskie carrier, not after the endless pile of trouble the current one is.

https://fighterjetsworld.com/naval/indi ... ead/13066/

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My only question is whether this is a one-legged Yeti or it's just hopping. :)

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Apparently two IAF officers operating Spyder AD system thought that Mi-17v5 helicopter is incoming Pakistani missile:

https://www.timesnownews.com/india/arti ... age/433870
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INS Viraat (R22), ex HMS Hermes (R12)

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Reports on 2nd Scorpene Submarine for Indian Navy Do Not Reflect Facts – Naval Group
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A report published by Indian daily newspaper Business Insider indicates that the Indian Navy refused to commission INS Khanderi, the second of the Scorpene-class submarine, because of its noise level. According to Naval Group, such reporting does not reflect facts.
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There has been some delays in completing trials of the second submarine due to setting to work related issues and minor dent to the propeller which occurred during trials. The propeller was replaced and all noise trials have been completed successfully with results well above past specified performances.
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... val-group/



India issues Expression of Interest For six Project-75(i) Submarines
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The Indian Government on June 20 issued an Expression of Interest(s) for shortlisting potential Indian Strategic Partners for the Indian Navy Project 75(I) submarine program.
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... ubmarines/

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India issues multiple RFPs for vessels and hovercrafts
In « a significant development in the indigenous shipbuilding », the Indian Ministry of Defence has issued four shipbuilding Requests for Proposal (RFP) amounting to US$2.175 billion for the acquisition of various vessels for the Indian Navy and the Indian Coast Guard.
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... vercrafts/

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MDL launches Indian Navy’s first P-17A-class frigate INS Nilgiri
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INS Nilgiri, the first of seven P-17A-class frigates being built for the Indian Navy, was launched at the Mazagon Dock Shipbuilders Ltd. (MDL) dockyard in Mumbai on September 28.
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... s-nilgiri/

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India’s AIP system gets boost with operation of land-based prototype
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India's fuel cell-based Air Independent Propulsion (AIP) system has crossed several milestones in technology maturity, the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) has announced.
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As previously reported, Naval Group India engineers are already working with the DRDO for the integration of an Indian designed AIP module. Initially, the 5th and 6th submarine should have received an AIP plug. But due to delays in the propulsion module design at DRDO, it was later decided that the AIP plug will be retrofitted to each Kalvari-class submarine during their first normal refit that occurs every 7 years.
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... prototype/

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Very interesting.

"Naval LCA makes successful arrested landing on INS Vikramaditya."


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looks like it could be back on the cards

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Tempest414 wrote: it could be back on the cards
A Folland Gnat replacement - finally. Admittedly, the latter did not fly off carriers.
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What is its thrust to weight ratio as this is key to STOBAR operations?

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Lord Jim wrote:What is its thrust to weight ratio as this is key to STOBAR operations?
A good point as in 2018 the improved version "
“The Navy wants a twin engine and for that the Naval LCA has to be tested. For example, the landing gear has to be stronger,” was still in design.

The plane looks like a trainer and before Mig-29K came around the naval fighters on the Russian STOBAR carrier were in practice limited to taking off with A2A loadouts (lighter).

This article sheds light to the LCA rescue prgrm (HAL of course being 'the state' though it is made to look like private funds are carrying half of the burden... for which there hasn't been a justification for a decade (the prgrm itself much older)
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... aign=cppst
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India needs to secure its second strike capability
" India’s Strategic Forces Command has begun receiving 42 Su-30MKI air dominance fighters modified to carry air-launched BrahMos supersonic cruise missile. This will significantly enhance the striking power of the air leg of India’s nuclear triad."
whereas Russia is putting similar missiles (Brahmos was also a co-development) onto similar a/c for 'fat' ship targets... like carriers.
Ever-lasting truths: Multi-year budgets/ planning by necessity have to address the painful questions; more often than not the Either-Or prevails over Both-And.
If everyone is thinking the same, then someone is not thinking (attributed to Patton)

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