Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

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Which Anti-Ship Missile Should be Selected for the Type 26?

Lockheed Martin LRASM
158
54%
Kongsberg NSM
65
22%
Boeing Harpoon Next Gen
43
15%
MBDA Exocet Blk III
19
6%
None (stick to guided ammo and FASGW from Helicopters)
8
3%
 
Total votes: 293

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That picture sums up what’s wrong with the Clyde - half million pound waterfront apartments within five hundred meters of a shipyard. We had this in Australia it was called Williamstown, the aussies were sensible enough to close it down and build greenfield

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And that was how Liverpool lost its UNESCO status...

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bobp wrote:Another view of HMS Glasgow............

Would note that this is not new, Iver Huitfeldt class design uses shock protected "islands" able to absorb impacts for mounting its sensitive electronic kit and presumably same used on the T31.

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Lets face it, new/novel/innovative features probably aren't going to make it into a press release

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HMS Glasgow mast craned on...


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Well done Bob!!!!

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Bob’s one strong bloke…

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Enlarged/embiggened
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Always good to see progress.

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Mast made in Norway by Umoe Mandal. And no, it definitely doesn't look like a Dalek. :mrgreen:
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The three Type 26 frigates currently under construction have been issued with pennant numbers.

1. HMS Glasgow (F88) - F88 was previously used by T22 HMS Broadsword between 1979-1995 (sold to Brazil as Greenhalgh, decommissioned 10th August 2021)
The previous HMS Glasgow, a T42 destroyer, used the D88 pennant.

2. HMS Cardiff (F89) - F89 was previously used by T22 HMS Battleaxe between 1980-1996 (sold to Brazil as Rademaker)
3. HMS Belfast (F90) - F90 was previously used by T22 HMS Brilliant between 1981-1996 (sold to Brazil as Dodsworth, scrapped 2012)

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_26_frigate

The youngest of the T23 (HMS St Albans) was issued with F83.

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Is the mast made of plywood?

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Is the mast made of plywood?

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Umoe Mandal's (Norwegian mast maker) website says the T26 mast is a composite material.
https://www.um.no/critical-components-f ... oyal-navy/

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Shame they can't afford to put a Sampson on top rather than Artisan :(

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Shame they cant afford C.E.C

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seaspear wrote:Shame they cant afford C.E.C
I thought that the RN doesn't really believe in that?
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Thanks to SKB, new info to me.
GarethDavies1 wrote:Is the mast made of plywood?
Umoe Mandel all-composite material structures "composite sandwich materials in a variety of Fibre-reinforced polymer composites (FRP), such as resins (polyesters, vinyl ester, epoxy, phenolic), fibers (glass, aramid, carbon), roving (uni- and multi-axial fabrics, woven roving, etc.) with core materials of PVC and PMI foam, balsa and honeycombs."

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From <https://www.um.no/technology-engineerin ... materials/>

PS Would note USN first two Zumwalts 15/16,000t destroyers used a composite 1,000t deck house with balsa core material to reduce top weight presumably due to its tumblehome hull design and stability concerns, due to costs they deleted its SPY-4 VSR with its flat panel arrays which reduced weight in deck house and on third ship used a steel deck house as less expensive.

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abc123 wrote:
seaspear wrote:Shame they cant afford C.E.C
I thought that the RN doesn't really believe in that?
This is what c.e.c is about it provides information from dispersed sensors that can be collated carrier for instance the carrier escorts that are situated further from the carrier could provide real-time information in coordinating responses and engage against attacks further from the carrier.
https://www.jhuapl.edu/Content/techdige ... PLteam.pdf
https://defensesystems.com/articles/201 ... c.aspx?m=1
It's worth noting other navies to use this capability multiplier
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... destroyer/
https://thediplomat.com/2018/11/austral ... apability/
https://www.navaltoday.com/2019/05/21/i ... am-firing/

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seaspear wrote:
abc123 wrote:
seaspear wrote:Shame they cant afford C.E.C
I thought that the RN doesn't really believe in that?
This is what c.e.c is about it provides information from dispersed sensors that can be collated carrier for instance the carrier escorts that are situated further from the carrier could provide real-time information in coordinating responses and engage against attacks further from the carrier.
https://www.jhuapl.edu/Content/techdige ... PLteam.pdf
https://defensesystems.com/articles/201 ... c.aspx?m=1
It's worth noting other navies to use this capability multiplier
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... destroyer/
https://thediplomat.com/2018/11/austral ... apability/
https://www.navaltoday.com/2019/05/21/i ... am-firing/
I know what the CEC is.
But I read somewhere that the RN supposedly thinks that CEC isn't really useful in real combat, with lots ECM.
Fortune favors brave sir, said Carrot cheerfully.
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What about secure datalinks?

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From DSEI ...


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That doesn't look like a UK spec T-26. Why are BAe Systems and Babcock embarrassed to show the planned RN configuration vessels in addition to "What ifs", to entice exports?

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Lord Jim wrote:That doesn't look like a UK spec T-26. Why are BAe Systems and Babcock embarrassed to show the planned RN configuration vessels in addition to "What ifs", to entice exports?
?? The T26 model in the photo of the tweet looks exactly the RN spec T26, for me? The Arrowhead 140 model from Babcock looks like those proposed fro Greek, as well (and may be also to Indonesia?).

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