Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

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Which Anti-Ship Missile Should be Selected for the Type 26?

Lockheed Martin LRASM
160
53%
Kongsberg NSM
71
23%
Boeing Harpoon Next Gen
44
14%
MBDA Exocet Blk III
21
7%
None (stick to guided ammo and FASGW from Helicopters)
8
3%
 
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Wonder if they needed to move HMS Cardiff .......


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Never mind :think:

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(Rolf Jonsen) 24th November 2022
HMS Glagow was supposed to be moved from the quay side at BAE Systems in Govan to a barge this morning, but something happened and they stopped the operation. This video is at 4x speed.
And built in less time than it takes to build an Arran ferry. :mrgreen:

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HMS Cardiff up to the roof of the shed on the left hand side. :)
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09:35 today.
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(Mike Dubar @boson05) 25th November 2022
HMS glasgow is on the move at last....

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(John McMillan @iainile) 25th November 2022
Nearly on..
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SKB wrote: 25 Nov 2022, 12:24 HMS Glagow was supposed to be moved from the quay side at BAE Systems in Govan to a barge this morning, but something happened and they stopped the operation. This video is at 4x speed.
Tea break.

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BAE Systems Starts Floating Off First Type 26 Frigate
The first Type 26 City Class frigate, HMS GLASGOW, has begun the float off process, which will see her enter the water for the first time.

Over the coming days, the ship, currently weighing nearly 6,000 tonnes, will undertake a series of complex manoeuvres that will move her from BAE Systems’ Govan shipyard, onto a barge before being towed down river to a deep-water location in the West of Scotland.

Once in position, the float off will involve the base of the barge being slowly submerged over a number of hours until HMS GLASGOW fully enters the water. She will then return to BAE Systems’ Scotstoun shipyard further along the Clyde, where she will undergo the next stages of outfit before test and commissioning.
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... 6-frigate/
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On the barge...





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I wonder if this will start to appear on other designs or will it only be an experiment on the Type 26's

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The black parts of the hulls could be related to the Prairie Masker system which creates an air bubble to reduce transmitted noise. It is fitted to the type 23 frigates and possibly other ships.

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Question - is there or might there be space for the NSM to be fitted amidships?

I think it is basically confirmed that FCASW will end up on T26 (presumably with other things) but if that is an expensive missile there might be scope to fit NSM when the T45 is retired?

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Dobbo wrote: 26 Nov 2022, 16:44 Question - is there or might there be space for the NSM to be fitted amidships?

I think it is basically confirmed that FCASW will end up on T26 (presumably with other things) but if that is an expensive missile there might be scope to fit NSM when the T45 is retired?
I believe RN have ordred 11 sets of NSM. That is an oddly specific number, which does equate in medium term (i.e. once the T23's have been retired) to 6*T45 and 5*T31, i.e. all vessels without Mk 41 VLS which presumably can use the FCASW.

It is possible that the T45's MIGHT be kept in service beyond 30 years as they have been relatively lightly used given their time sent in servicing or repair & maintenance. From the naming convention of T83, we can expect the replacements of T45 will be bigger and presumably hold more VLS cells. Beyond that we know nothing much about them - will they be Sylver cells specifically for Aster missiles, specifically for CAMM or more versatile Mk41 VLS that could fit FCASW as well as Anti-Missile and Anti-Aircraft missiles??
But if we are talking late 2030's then much could have changed by then.

So initially it seems that NSM will be fitted to a mixture of the T23 and T45 in the short term (depenDing on timing of LIFEX and PIP etc), then all the T45 and all the T31 in the medium term, and unknown in the longer term.
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pko100 wrote: 25 Nov 2022, 23:31 The black parts of the hulls could be related to the Prairie Masker system which creates an air bubble to reduce transmitted noise. It is fitted to the type 23 frigates and possibly other ships.
No, they're anechoic tiles. Been reliably reported as such since the block was wheeled out of the shed and the shielding plastic blew away in the balmy Glasgow breeze.

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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

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Dobbo wrote: 26 Nov 2022, 16:44 Question - is there or might there be space for the NSM to be fitted amidships?

I think it is basically confirmed that FCASW will end up on T26 (presumably with other things) but if that is an expensive missile there might be scope to fit NSM when the T45 is retired?
On the hangar/mission bay roof as shown on the Canadian T26 derivatives. Would require some movement of antenna etc.

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Post by Astradyne »

In all honesty, I have read a lot about what the black section could and could not be. To be it just seems like a cradle infrastructure to assist keeping the ship in position/upright. You can see the red paint underneath through the odd holes in the structure.

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