Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

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Which Anti-Ship Missile Should be Selected for the Type 26?

Lockheed Martin LRASM
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54%
Kongsberg NSM
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22%
Boeing Harpoon Next Gen
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MBDA Exocet Blk III
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None (stick to guided ammo and FASGW from Helicopters)
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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

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tomuk wrote:All T26 blocks are built at Govan
Besides the mast :)

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ETH wrote:Besides the mast :)
This is true.

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Funding for last five ships confirmed

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/funding ... -frigates/

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NickC wrote: 26 Dec 2021, 12:43 Funding for last five ships confirmed

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/funding ... -frigates/
It really Isn’t. UKDJ contorts virtually every parliamentary written answer into a major story, ladeling on additional information taken from wherever.

Main problem is Parliamentary written answers are often bullshit and promise things that never, ever come to pass.

Until UKDJ learns this and develops a degree of real-world cynicism it’s producing clickbait rather than journalism.

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None UKDJ article on batch two T26 :-

https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/nava ... ch-2-unde/

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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

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RichardIC wrote: 26 Dec 2021, 13:08
NickC wrote: 26 Dec 2021, 12:43 Funding for last five ships confirmed

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/funding ... -frigates/
It really Isn’t. UKDJ contorts virtually every parliamentary written answer into a major story, ladeling on additional information taken from wherever.

Main problem is Parliamentary written answers are often bullshit and promise things that never, ever come to pass.

Until UKDJ learns this and develops a degree of real-world cynicism it’s producing clickbait rather than journalism.
Appreciate your take, thanks.

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Would it be announced on the MOD website if true ?.....Gov's always like to announce good things a few times over ha ha

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Post by bobp »

NickC wrote: 26 Dec 2021, 16:02
RichardIC wrote: 26 Dec 2021, 13:08
NickC wrote: 26 Dec 2021, 12:43 Funding for last five ships confirmed

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/funding ... -frigates/
It really Isn’t. UKDJ contorts virtually every parliamentary written answer into a major story, ladeling on additional information taken from wherever.

Main problem is Parliamentary written answers are often bullshit and promise things that never, ever come to pass.

Until UKDJ learns this and develops a degree of real-world cynicism it’s producing clickbait rather than journalism.
Appreciate your take, thanks.
The only thing correct is the fact that some long lead items have been ordered. no contract for building the ships has been signed, So article is bull...t.

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Post by Caribbean »

It's a step forward - I would read that as "the T26 programme is a core planning assumption for future budget planning" i.e. it's going to take an earthquake to remove it from the plans, so I would say that the headline is reasonably accurate. I'm not sure that I would have gone as far as saying "secures" in the sub-head, however! The fact that long lead items are actually being purchased would also seem to be a good omen.
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RichardIC wrote: 26 Dec 2021, 13:08
NickC wrote: 26 Dec 2021, 12:43 Funding for last five ships confirmed

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/funding ... -frigates/
It really Isn’t. UKDJ contorts virtually every parliamentary written answer into a major story, ladeling on additional information taken from wherever.

Main problem is Parliamentary written answers are often bullshit and promise things that never, ever come to pass.

Until UKDJ learns this and develops a degree of real-world cynicism it’s producing clickbait rather than journalism.
I don't claim that this is a major story at all, the article clearly states that funding has been allocated by the Ministry of Defence to build and support the next five Type 26 Frigates and quotes Baroness Goldie saying that funding has been allocated to build and support the next five Type 26 Frigates. It's not up to me to decide whether or not this is "bullshit". Opinion doesn't mix well with news, I simply publishing an article saying X has said Y.

We're a small group of people doing this in our free time as a hobby, we're not a news company or business and we don't get paid. We're not professional journalists, I mean my day job is in a hospital. We write about things we think people want to know about and we try to provide a bit of background information along with it. We have no need to produce clickbait, we don't make any money with the website so whether 1 or 100 people read a story makes no difference, I still have to pay most of the server costs myself.

I thought it was newsworthy that resources have been allocated for the second batch so I published an article saying that resourced have been allocated for a second batch.

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Another piece in the puzzle, if a lot of the lead items has been ordered it would take a lot to de-rail the next batch of the T26, will be interesting to hear when it becomes officially announced though

Perhaps they will try to fit another one in.....i know cloud cuckoo land

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imperialman wrote: 27 Dec 2021, 10:06
RichardIC wrote: 26 Dec 2021, 13:08
NickC wrote: 26 Dec 2021, 12:43 Funding for last five ships confirmed

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/funding ... -frigates/
It really Isn’t. UKDJ contorts virtually every parliamentary written answer into a major story, ladeling on additional information taken from wherever.

Main problem is Parliamentary written answers are often bullshit and promise things that never, ever come to pass.

Until UKDJ learns this and develops a degree of real-world cynicism it’s producing clickbait rather than journalism.
I don't claim that this is a major story at all, the article clearly states that funding has been allocated by the Ministry of Defence to build and support the next five Type 26 Frigates and quotes Baroness Goldie saying that funding has been allocated to build and support the next five Type 26 Frigates. It's not up to me to decide whether or not this is "bullshit". Opinion doesn't mix well with news, I simply publishing an article saying X has said Y.

We're a small group of people doing this in our free time as a hobby, we're not a news company or business and we don't get paid. We're not professional journalists, I mean my day job is in a hospital. We write about things we think people want to know about and we try to provide a bit of background information along with it. We have no need to produce clickbait, we don't make any money with the website so whether 1 or 100 people read a story makes no difference, I still have to pay most of the server costs myself.

I thought it was newsworthy that resources have been allocated for the second batch so I published an article saying that resourced have been allocated for a second batch.
Unfortunately you seem to have one particular poster, who seems dislike anything you publish. The old saying springs to mind ' those that can do, those that can't criticize'.
I for one appreciate the effort, time and work you put into your articles. You only have to look at the 'replies' section under the articles you put on your blog, and it is obvious that many others agree with me
Keep up the good work, and ignore the naysavers that have nothing else to offer except to decry someone else's efforts.
All the best.
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Post by wargame_insomniac »

Surely it's a good thing if they have placed contracts for specific long-lead components. Hopefully that will prevent or at least minimise any future delay if all the components are ready by the time that construction has reached relevant stages.

I was gettig concerned that we had nt heard anything about ordering the 2nd batch of 5 frigates and this news just makes that confirmation appear more likely sooner rather than later. Even if it is not the actual confirmation of order of the 5 ships themselves from BAE. Hopefully this is just MoD learning from previously.

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imperialman wrote: 27 Dec 2021, 10:06
RichardIC wrote: 26 Dec 2021, 13:08
NickC wrote: 26 Dec 2021, 12:43 Funding for last five ships confirmed

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/funding ... -frigates/
It really Isn’t. UKDJ contorts virtually every parliamentary written answer into a major story, ladeling on additional information taken from wherever.

Main problem is Parliamentary written answers are often bullshit and promise things that never, ever come to pass.

Until UKDJ learns this and develops a degree of real-world cynicism it’s producing clickbait rather than journalism.
I don't claim that this is a major story at all, the article clearly states that funding has been allocated by the Ministry of Defence to build and support the next five Type 26 Frigates and quotes Baroness Goldie saying that funding has been allocated to build and support the next five Type 26 Frigates. It's not up to me to decide whether or not this is "bullshit". Opinion doesn't mix well with news, I simply publishing an article saying X has said Y.

We're a small group of people doing this in our free time as a hobby, we're not a news company or business and we don't get paid. We're not professional journalists, I mean my day job is in a hospital. We write about things we think people want to know about and we try to provide a bit of background information along with it. We have no need to produce clickbait, we don't make any money with the website so whether 1 or 100 people read a story makes no difference, I still have to pay most of the server costs myself.

I thought it was newsworthy that resources have been allocated for the second batch so I published an article saying that resourced have been allocated for a second batch.
On reflection my use of the word bullshit was a bit strong, True what you have reported, but until a firm contract has been signed for 5 ships there is nothing certain, The government has History of backtracking on contracts, as well as cancelling numbers, Lets hope none of that happens and they order an extra couple as they will be needed.

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bobp wrote: 27 Dec 2021, 21:13
imperialman wrote: 27 Dec 2021, 10:06
RichardIC wrote: 26 Dec 2021, 13:08
NickC wrote: 26 Dec 2021, 12:43 Funding for last five ships confirmed

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/funding ... -frigates/
It really Isn’t. UKDJ contorts virtually every parliamentary written answer into a major story, ladeling on additional information taken from wherever.

Main problem is Parliamentary written answers are often bullshit and promise things that never, ever come to pass.

Until UKDJ learns this and develops a degree of real-world cynicism it’s producing clickbait rather than journalism.
I don't claim that this is a major story at all, the article clearly states that funding has been allocated by the Ministry of Defence to build and support the next five Type 26 Frigates and quotes Baroness Goldie saying that funding has been allocated to build and support the next five Type 26 Frigates. It's not up to me to decide whether or not this is "bullshit". Opinion doesn't mix well with news, I simply publishing an article saying X has said Y.

We're a small group of people doing this in our free time as a hobby, we're not a news company or business and we don't get paid. We're not professional journalists, I mean my day job is in a hospital. We write about things we think people want to know about and we try to provide a bit of background information along with it. We have no need to produce clickbait, we don't make any money with the website so whether 1 or 100 people read a story makes no difference, I still have to pay most of the server costs myself.

I thought it was newsworthy that resources have been allocated for the second batch so I published an article saying that resourced have been allocated for a second batch.
On reflection my use of the word bullshit was a bit strong, True what you have reported, but until a firm contract has been signed for 5 ships there is nothing certain, The government has History of backtracking on contracts, as well as cancelling numbers, Lets hope none of that happens and they order an extra couple as they will be needed.
In all fairness the article doesn't say that contacts have been signed but it does say that they'll be signed at some point in the next few years.

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imperialman wrote: 27 Dec 2021, 21:36
bobp wrote: 27 Dec 2021, 21:13
imperialman wrote: 27 Dec 2021, 10:06
RichardIC wrote: 26 Dec 2021, 13:08
NickC wrote: 26 Dec 2021, 12:43 Funding for last five ships confirmed

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/funding ... -frigates/
It really Isn’t. UKDJ contorts virtually every parliamentary written answer into a major story, ladeling on additional information taken from wherever.

Main problem is Parliamentary written answers are often bullshit and promise things that never, ever come to pass.

Until UKDJ learns this and develops a degree of real-world cynicism it’s producing clickbait rather than journalism.
I don't claim that this is a major story at all, the article clearly states that funding has been allocated by the Ministry of Defence to build and support the next five Type 26 Frigates and quotes Baroness Goldie saying that funding has been allocated to build and support the next five Type 26 Frigates. It's not up to me to decide whether or not this is "bullshit". Opinion doesn't mix well with news, I simply publishing an article saying X has said Y.

We're a small group of people doing this in our free time as a hobby, we're not a news company or business and we don't get paid. We're not professional journalists, I mean my day job is in a hospital. We write about things we think people want to know about and we try to provide a bit of background information along with it. We have no need to produce clickbait, we don't make any money with the website so whether 1 or 100 people read a story makes no difference, I still have to pay most of the server costs myself.

I thought it was newsworthy that resources have been allocated for the second batch so I published an article saying that resourced have been allocated for a second batch.
On reflection my use of the word bullshit was a bit strong, True what you have reported, but until a firm contract has been signed for 5 ships there is nothing certain, The government has History of backtracking on contracts, as well as cancelling numbers, Lets hope none of that happens and they order an extra couple as they will be needed.
In all fairness the article doesn't say that contacts have been signed but it does say that they'll be signed at some point in the next few years.
Absolutely correct. They need to be ordered ASAP as they are now cutting steel for the third ship, and need to keep the production line going. .

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