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Warthog All Terrain Tracked Carrier (ATTC) (British Army)

Postby SKB » 01 Jun 2015, 16:40

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Introduction
The Bronco All Terrain Tracked Carrier (ATTC) is a twin chassis multi-purpose articulated tracked carrier jointly developed by ST Kinetics and the Defence Science & Technology Agency (DSTA) for the Singapore Army. The variant in service with the UK armed forces is known as the Warthog.

Design
Designed to traverse difficult terrain, the Bronco has a ground pressure of 60 kPa and is fitted with heavy duty seamless rubber tracks and a running gear system for soft ground conditions and directional stability. Swimming operations require minimal preparation and it can achieve a swimming speed of 5 km/h. The Bronco's four-sprocket drive, fully articulated steering with optional differential lock provides for small turning radius manoeuvres and improved performance.

The Bronco has a load carrying capacity of up to 5 tonnes and is capable of a top speed of 60 km/h (37 mph) on the road and at least 25 km/h (16 mph) on cross-country terrain. An advantage the standard Bronco has over other western armoured personnel carriers is its relatively large interior, with seating for 16 including the driver.

British service
In December 2008, ST Kinetics was awarded a £150 million contract by the British Ministry of Defence for over 100 Bronco All Terrain Tracked Carriers for use in Afghanistan. The vehicles, dubbed the Warthog in British service, will replace Vikings currently operating in southern Afghanistan by the British military, and are being procured as part of a £700 million package of Urgent Operational Requirements (UORs) recently announced by Defence Secretary John Hutton. Deliveries began in the third quarter of 2009, finished in 2010.

Four Warthog variants will be built under the contract – Troop Carrier, Ambulance, Command, and Repair & Recovery. The ambulance variant is capable of carrying casualties, medics and kit. Warthog's repair and recovery variant is fitted with a crane and winch, and has the capability to tow another 18-tonne Warthog vehicle back from the front line.

Once delivered to the UK, contractor Thales fits the vehicles according to MoD specifications with communications systems, specialist counter-measure equipment and extra protective armour at their facility in the former MoD depot at Llangennech near Llanelli, South Wales. The first vehicles arrived in service to Afghanistan in mid-2010.

In December 2010, British Army soldier – Lance Corporal William Reeks – survived an IED attack after the Warthog he was travelling in set off a 50 kg (110 lb) improvised explosive device. His family believes that the stronger armour of the Warthogs, which replaced less heavily fortified Viking armoured vehicles, helped save their son's life.

Warthog continued in British service in Helmand Province till the closure of Camp Bastion in 2015. It was crewed throughout its use in Afghanistan by soldiers exclusively from the Royal Armoured Corps. The last Warthog Group coming from C (the Duke of Edinburgh) Squadron, the Queen's Royal Hussars.

Jane's military guide has reported that British Warthog vehicles will be transformed to serve as transporter vehicles for Thales Watchkeeper UAV manned by 32nd Regiment Royal Artillery and 47th Regiment Royal Artillery under the Army 2020 concept.

Specifications

Weight: 15 tonnes (33,100 lb)
Length: 8.6 metres (28 ft 3 in)
Width: 2.2 metres (7 ft 2.6 in)
Height: 2.3 metres (7 ft 6.6 in)
Crew: 16 (6 front + 10 rear)
Armour Steel, AMAP-ADS active protection system
Main armament:
FN MAG 7.62 mm General Purpose Machine Gun (ATTC); or Ultimax 100 5.56 mm Light Machine Gun
Secondary armament: Smoke grenade launchers
Engine: Caterpillar 3126B 350 bhp (261 kW) at 2400 rpm
Speed:
Paved road: 60 km/h (37.3 mph)
Cross country: 25 km/h (15.5 mph)
Swimming: 4.5 km/h (2.80 mph)

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Re: Warthog (ATTC) (Army)

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Postby Gabriele » 11 Mar 2016, 15:14

The Army has dumped Warthog in October 2015. Earlier plans to use them in 1st ISTAR brigade to carry MAMBA and Desert Hawk teams have been scrapped. http://www.janes.com/article/58712/brit ... ed-vehicle

Desert Hawk teams have been seen riding on FV432 APCs and on Husky vehicles during exercises.

That still leaves the problem of replacing unprotected and ancient BV206 vehicles. Mainly with the Marines, but a few also in the Army (MAMBA carriers, a few in the Falklands).

Cannot help but wonder if it wouldn't be possible to restore Warthog to amphibious-weight (they used to be Bronco vehicles, after all) and hand them to the Royal Marines to begin solving the BV206 problem.

But, silly me. It is much simpler not to solve the problem at all, dump Warthog and also kill (for the second time in just a few years) the programme for purchasing a new all terrain vehicle.
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Re: Warthog (ATTC) (Army)

Postby RetroSicotte » 11 Mar 2016, 15:16

Oh typical. One of the best new vehicles we got in years, one that had an absolutely astounding reputation for protection and proved its worth time and again is unceremoniously dumped under the pretense of "It can be covered by other thing". ie - "We wanted to cut it without saying it's a cut."

Same reason we lost 2 Sealifts, same reason we lost ALARM.

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Re: Warthog (ATTC) (Army)

Postby 617 » 11 Mar 2016, 17:15

How come this information has only come to light within the past couple of days? Do we know if these vehicles be kept in storage for another Afghan (like) conflict?

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Re: Warthog (ATTC) (Army)

Postby Wrekin762 » 16 Mar 2016, 18:30

RetroSicotte wrote: One of the best new vehicles we got in years


What makes you say that?

I heard nothing but bad things about them when they were first being used: Road wheels cracking after relatively low mileage, difficult to access the drive train for field repairs, fuel pumps that were no good in a sustained hill climb.

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Re: Warthog (ATTC) (Army)

Postby marktigger » 16 Mar 2016, 18:50

HMMM another UOR buy being goten rid of?

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Re: Warthog (ATTC) (Army)

Postby RetroSicotte » 16 Mar 2016, 19:18

Wrekin762 wrote:
RetroSicotte wrote: One of the best new vehicles we got in years


What makes you say that?

I heard nothing but bad things about them when they were first being used: Road wheels cracking after relatively low mileage, difficult to access the drive train for field repairs, fuel pumps that were no good in a sustained hill climb.


When was the last time we heard of a death in one?

If there was one thing that came out of it, it's that the protection was excellent, far in excess of the Viking.

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Re: Warthog (ATTC) (Army)

Postby ArmChairCivvy » 21 May 2016, 04:23

A requirement from the Australian land 400 ( which I had not noticed before as bids have not yet been invited; and, a requirement we don't obviously have?):

"Support to combat teams and battle
groups conducting distributed operations
in urban littoral environment.
• Precision 120mm munitions.
• Networked in land and joint digital
environment.
• Vehicle mounted on a L400 chassis"

The last bullet point explains why this one is only coming "next"...what ever will be chosen for armoured recce will be the platform for this one as well
- I wonder which of the solutions bid already has a factory fit for "Precision 120mm munitions"

But that is Australia; Warthogs would make an ideal platform for such a combat support vehicle in British Army formations other than those that will get the ABSV (if it is not going to be killed, too) for the reason that they operate the chassis as IFVs (and other purposes, like carrying combat engineers).

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Re: Warthog (ATTC) (Army)

Postby ArmChairCivvy » 21 May 2016, 08:58

Carrying MAMBA (and by assumption, its successor, too?) was mentioned as a goal upthread.

As Warthog on its own is too heavy to be carried underslung by a Chinook (unlike the Viking), such an implementation would not meet a published requirement:

"Deploy on current and planned future air transport, namely A400M as a single load. Tactical mobility to be provided preferably on current or planned UK Land in-service vehicles so as to achieve Improved Medium Mobility and underslung CH47"

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Re: Warthog (ATTC) (Army)

Postby marktigger » 21 Jul 2016, 11:27

saw 3 of these doing a road run yesterday. Interesting to see them on the Road suspect they were from the Royal Marines

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Re: Warthog (ATTC) (Army)

Postby marktigger » 21 Jul 2016, 15:21

all green no weapons but mounts on it no bar armour and down the road from Bickleigh barracks

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Postby Gabriele » 21 Jul 2016, 18:55

You sure they weren't actually Vikings...? Never seen a Warthog with green paint on...
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Re: Warthog (ATTC) (Army)

Postby marktigger » 21 Jul 2016, 19:15

all round the doors the edges were desert coloured and they were block green not green/black as the vikings i've seen have been. Given i was trying to get through a busy junction I thought they were bigger than the viking.

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Re: Warthog (ATTC) (Army)

Postby bobp » 21 Jul 2016, 19:34

I have seen Warthogs painted green, they were on a range close to Bovington Tank Museum. My son who is serving at Blanford Forum in Dorset pointed them out to me, there was also quite a few Challenger Tanks in the area. So I guess an exercise was taking place at the time. Perhaps these were training vehicles, I don't know but they were green.

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Re: Warthog (ATTC) (Army)

Postby whitelancer » 21 Jul 2016, 21:59

AFV driver training is conducted at Bovington, that's probably what you were seeing.

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Postby Gabriele » 21 Jul 2016, 22:02

That's curious. I only remember sand-colored ones, even in the training fleet. Besides, they are now supposed to be out of service and no longer destined to any use.

Maybe they were vehicles the army had started to de-Afghanize before money and will run out and the whole thing was canned. They were supposed to become equipment of the ISR and Artillery brigades, at one point...
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Re: Warthog (ATTC) (Army)

Postby bobp » 22 Jul 2016, 04:40

The Green Warthogs that I saw were some time ago, early last year. They had the mini-turret type of weapon stations on top of the cab, no guns were fitted though. If Bovington is the home of the driving school then that's probably what they were.

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Re: Warthog (ATTC) (Army)

Postby riksavage » 26 Jul 2016, 05:17

They should send the the Warthogs lock, stock and barrel to the Falklands and transfer them to the garrison ORBAT. Enough to support a platoon+ move, the remainder kept in storage as replacement/spares. Ideal bit of kit for the environment.

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Re: Warthog All Terrain Tracked Carrier (ATTC) (British Army)

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Re: Warthog All Terrain Tracked Carrier (ATTC) (British Army)

Postby Lord Jim » 30 Jul 2018, 19:53

Something had to be left out of the core budget I suppose. Mind you the Army seems to have a on going problem finding roles for its motley fleet of AFVs and so probably couldn't find one the justified their retention and support costs. Too many Mastiffs in the vehicle park as well.

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Re: Warthog All Terrain Tracked Carrier (ATTC) (British Army)

Postby R686 » 30 Jul 2018, 21:13

Ianmb17 wrote:https://twitter.com/Hunterr1/status/1023975356150239233?s=20



Scrap/train wreck?


Ah got a larger photo explains all :thumbdown:


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