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Plymouth Royal Marines blasted their way through a sprawling 1,000-building town as six weeks of intensive desert training in the Mojave Desert reached an explosive climax.

The men of 42 Commando, along with the Royal Netherlands Marine Corp and the U.S. Marine Corps, led the way through the mock town in a nine-day battle which brought the curtain down on Exercise Black Alligator, the most action-packed live-firing training Royal Marines get anywhere in the world.

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Royal Marines of 45 Commando let rip on the range when they hammered away with machine-guns and missiles for live-firing training.
Yankee Company spent a week training at Otterburn Camp in Northumberland, training which climaxed with launches of Javelin and NLAW anti-tank missiles.
Read More: https://navynews.co.uk/archive/news/item/13785

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arfah wrote:539 ASRM training on Loch Ness.
Some interesting videos from the exercise on Loch Ness:





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So, Top Gear were not the first to get a hovercraft through a lock?! ;)


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That's a video of the demo they did at dsei 2015, boarding a French vessel, VN Partisan. A cheap OPV kitted out for aviation, boarding and other naval training activities, rather than using an expensive asset.

Perhaps something the RN could look at. The French have it under a PFI (or their version of), maybe we should joint that.
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NATO Brand Royal Marines Intelligence Unit Best In The Business
Royal Marine specialists who intercept and exploit enemy communications have been singled out by NATO leaders as ‘outstanding’.

Small but elite, Y Squadron of 30 Commando Information Exploitation group were named the best unit across the 28 armed forces of the Atlantic Treaty organisation in their role of electronic warfare.

Major Robert Thorpe of Y Sqn received the prestigious NATO award at a ceremony held in Washington DC.
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UK Royal Marine Unit Ditches the SA80 for Colt C8
A high-profile UK Royal Marine unit has been re-equipped with the Colt Canada C8 carbine to enhance its ability to protect the Royal Navy's nuclear deterrent submarine base and nuclear weapon convoys.

The move makes the unit the first British non-special forces unit to completely drop the bullpup L85A2 (SA80) rifle used by the rest of the regular forces. Various UK special forces units already use the C8, which is designated the L119 in British service.

Details of the re-equipment effort were revealed by the commander of 43 Commando Fleet Protection Group Royal Marines, Colonel Graeme Fraser, in a briefing document to service members distributed in February.
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There's much to improve with the MG belt handling, as seen in snow.

The first step would be canvas-enclosed 100-round belts, so that there is some self sufficiency, too, if the supporting guy is busy (like fetching some more):
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shark bait wrote:That's a video of the demo they did at dsei 2015, boarding a French vessel, VN Partisan. A cheap OPV kitted out for aviation, boarding and other naval training activities, rather than using an expensive asset.

Perhaps something the RN could look at. The French have it under a PFI (or their version of), maybe we should joint that.
Doesn't the SBS use the old Sir Tristram in the harbour of Portland for that kind of training? Only defect is that she is completely stationary (i think) and so doesn't fully prepare to boarding a moving vessel, but other than that...

If they don't already, Royal Marines should probably make use of that first of all.
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Gabriele wrote:Only defect is that she is completely stationary (i think)
Yep, permanently sat in Portland, https://goo.gl/maps/iark9mk285B2

I have no idea if the marines use it, but as you say, boarding in a sheltered port doesn't properly prepare for a boarding at sea. I know diligence has been used by the marines for boarding training in the past, but her days are numbered now.

An aviation and boarding training platform could make good sense to part replace Argus and diligence, as TD recently pointed out, prices starting at £2 million for some valuable kit. We are also lacking a development platform, highlighted in the recent unmanned helicopter trials, a training ship would fit that role too.
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Newsbeat joins the Royal Marines in Norway as they provide cold weather training to the USMC:

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Next schoolboy error (I admire these guys who step into this from a totally different environment):

When you drop into the water the bit that you have with you with most buoyancy is your Bergen (assuming it has your personal kit, rather than up to the brim with ammo). You use that for supporting your middle(lower) body while using the limited traction the ski poles (they are sharp, I assure you) can offer for use by your upper body.

The real situation will be more difficult, as
1. you will have your Bergen on you, not slung onto the shoulder
2. the clothing and boots will start to take in water, weighing you down (your Bergen will not, if you have close all the compartments properly, hence the mention)
3. if you have not suspected the ice being weak (or an enemy mortar round landing and breaking it), you would have your ski bindings fastened; here they are open and you can tread water the same way you normally would - this is the most difficult bit!
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Gabriele wrote:
shark bait wrote:That's a video of the demo they did at dsei 2015, boarding a French vessel, VN Partisan. A cheap OPV kitted out for aviation, boarding and other naval training activities, rather than using an expensive asset.

Perhaps something the RN could look at. The French have it under a PFI (or their version of), maybe we should joint that.
Doesn't the SBS use the old Sir Tristram in the harbour of Portland for that kind of training? Only defect is that she is completely stationary (i think) and so doesn't fully prepare to boarding a moving vessel, but other than that...

If they don't already, Royal Marines should probably make use of that first of all.
Cross channel and Western/Northern Isle ferries are used for boarding exercises from time to time.

https://www.calmac.co.uk/blog/royal-mar ... nian-isles


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marktigger wrote:43 cdo are to make the C8 as standard

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016 ... adopt-c8s/
Nice link, very credible since the picture is of RMP CPT, 43 are being issued the C8 due to it being able to fire the frangible 5.56mm round. Possibly due to the role?


I can't imagine having normal ball rounds puncturing bulkheads on ships, defence installations being a happy thing.

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yeap RMP CP teams have had them for a while as have SAS & SBS.

http://www.janes.com/article/58501/uk-r ... or-colt-c8

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UK forms new marine task group
A new contingency amphibious task group has been deployed to the Mediterranean by the UK Royal Navy and Royal Marines.

The 150-strong Special Purpose Task Group (SPTG) has been created for "contingency operations in the Mediterranean" according to a Royal Marines briefing document seen by IHS Jane's .

Although not previously disclosed, the SPTG was stood up in December 2015 and then sailed from Marchwood Military Port the following month for the Mediterranean on board the Bay-lass landing ship, RFA Mounts Bay . The task group is formed around Zulu Company of the Arbroath-based 45 Commando Royal Marines.

Additional enabling personnel from 29 Regiment Royal Artillery, 17 Port and Maritime Regiment of the Royal Logistic Corps, 24 Engineer Regiment, and 30 (Information Exploitation) Commando Royal Marines were attached to provide specialist capabilities and expertise.
Full article here (behind paywall): http://www.janes.com/article/59519/uk-f ... task-group

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GibMariner wrote:UK forms new marine task group
A new contingency amphibious task group has been deployed to the Mediterranean by the UK Royal Navy and Royal Marines.

The 150-strong Special Purpose Task Group (SPTG) has been created for "contingency operations in the Mediterranean" according to a Royal Marines briefing document seen by IHS Jane's .

Although not previously disclosed, the SPTG was stood up in December 2015 and then sailed from Marchwood Military Port the following month for the Mediterranean on board the Bay-lass landing ship, RFA Mounts Bay . The task group is formed around Zulu Company of the Arbroath-based 45 Commando Royal Marines.

Additional enabling personnel from 29 Regiment Royal Artillery, 17 Port and Maritime Regiment of the Royal Logistic Corps, 24 Engineer Regiment, and 30 (Information Exploitation) Commando Royal Marines were attached to provide specialist capabilities and expertise.
Full article here (behind paywall): http://www.janes.com/article/59519/uk-f ... task-group
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Are the marines still interested in a BV206 replacement? I have not seen anything since last year, and its missing from the SDSR.

I was thinking if the marines do have some cash in the equipment budget, wouldn't they be better focusing on CB90 and PACSCAT brining, into service what could arguably be one of the most capable landing craft? or are the BV206 really not fit for purpose any more? I suppose you could say the same thing about the LCU too....
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Probably too "low end" for SDSR mention, it only tends to go for the big ticket items.

It's still on though.

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What's happened to the army warthogs? I would suggest giving them to the marimes, and use the savings to invest in CB90 and PASCAT.
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