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you would have to take off all the xtras fitted for A-stan to make them swim again
- I would guess the enhanced protection was not done with just bolting on parts, so not a money's worth exercise
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yes it is of course dependant on them becoming light again. I always assumed it would be a simple task.

With the army's Warthog and Viking transferred to the marines the troop-carrying, mortar, ambulance, command variants could be covered, perhaps supplement by a small additional purchase of Warthog. The BV206 could continue on as a repair and logistic flatbed vehicle.

That might squeeze out the cash needed to upgrade our very slow landing craft.

In return, would the Army have a need for the LCU? Perhaps as a replacement for the old landing craft used by the Royal Logistic Corps.
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World-renowned 'Yomper' sculptor backs campaign to keep Falklands memorial in Eastney
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The man who created the iconic 'Yomper' statue outside The Royal Marines Museum has backed the campaign to stop it from being moved.

Sculptor Philip Jackson, commissioned to make the Falklands tribute in Eastney, says it is the ‘last visible reminder’ of the Royal Marines long association with the area.

It comes after residents spoke out against plans to move it to Portsmouth Historic Dockyard once the Royal Marines museum moves there in 2019.

And Mr Jackson, a world-renowned artist, believes another sculpture should be created for the dockyard so the people of Eastney can keep theirs.

The number of signatures put on an online petition against the move has shot up from 340 to more than 670 since The News highlighted the campaign on Monday.

Mr Jackson, who lives and works in West Sussex, said: ‘The Yomper was designed and made to stand in front of the historic Royal Marines buildings and it’s museum and was unveiled by Britain’s leader during the Falklands War, Margaret Thatcher, in the presence of many veterans of that conflict.

‘It should remain in the location it was made for and unveiled in as it will be the last visible reminder of the Royal Marines long association with Eastney, and the place where so many trained and went from to fight this countries wars.

‘It is now part of the heritage of Eastney and the south coast and is a very well known and recognisable landmark.’

Around 50 people recently gathered at the Yomper to pledge their support.

Geoff Elliott, of Gunners Row, said: ‘The statue belongs where the Marines were, not taken to a place of little relevance. It belongs where Mrs Thatcher, in the name of the British people, paid homage by unveiling the statue.

‘To move the statue to a place of little meaning would be to rewrite history.’

Petition: https://www.change.org/p/professor-domi ... r-seafront


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Royal Marines take bite out of Black Alligator
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More than 1,000 Royal Marines and Royal Marines Reservists are feeling the desert heat once again as they take part in an annual exercise with their US counterparts.

For seven weeks the marines of Taunton-based 40 Commando are honing their war fighting skills in the sweltering temperatures of California’s Mojave Desert.

Exercise Black Alligator is played out on the US Marine Corps’ huge all-terrain exercise area near the town of Twenty-nine Palms, California – a space eight times larger than Salisbury Plain to allow unparalleled use of firepower in training.

The full range of the Royal Marines’ armoury – Viking and Jackal armoured vehicles, 105mm field guns, mortars, heavy machine-guns, Javelin anti-tank missiles and combat engineers – are also being put through their paces.

Alongside US marines, the Commandos will take part in live firing, perfect their urban combat drill and conduct a battlegroup-sized live-fire Commando raid.

Exercise Black Alligator 16 forms part of the multi-environment training package that the Commando Group takes part in to ensure they remain at high readiness.

Next year will see the men of 40 Cdo take over the nation’s high-readiness Lead Commando Group – a contingency force able to deploy anywhere in the world at very short notice.
http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-la ... -alligator

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'Marine A' to be released after sentence reduced to Manslaughter
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A Royal Marine convicted of killing a wounded Taliban fighter in Afghanistan has been jailed for seven years.
Sgt Alexander Blackman, 42, will be freed in weeks as he has already served more than three years in jail.
The sentencing came after the Court Martial Appeal Court ruled Blackman's original murder conviction should be reduced to manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility. The 2011 shooting took place after a British patrol base came under fire.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39417239

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SKB wrote:'Marine A' to be released after sentence reduced to Manslaughter

Not that I care about Talibans, but manslaughter? :lol:

Come on, a war crime is a war crime, and murder is a murder, even if the victim is a Taliban.

It's interesting how the UK is first to preach around to other countries about the real or imagined war crimes they had comitted on their doorstep, but when British soldier makes a war crime, defending Britain 5 000 km away from UK, then it's a manslaughter... :(

And then you wonder why they call you Perfidious Albion. :lol:
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I agree he committed a war crime, so does the judge.

His crime was downgraded because his base was attacked earlier in the day and the RM's suffered casualties.

Therefore he was upset, not in full control of his mind and acted with a, "diminished responsibility."

I personally think that the judge was swayed by public opinion?

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Smokey wrote:I agree he committed a war crime, so does the judge.

His crime was downgraded because his base was attacked earlier in the day and the RM's suffered casualties.

Therefore he was upset, not in full control of his mind and acted with a, "diminished responsibility."

I personally think that the judge was swayed by public opinion?

I seriously doubt that any perpertrator of a war crime couldn't find some kind of excuse...

Long time without sex, uncomfortable bed in base, bad food that day, maybe a sand storm that week, the world is full of excuses... :lol:
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Well, Slobodan Milosevic got off the hook by permanently holding his breath...

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Smokey wrote:Well, Slobodan Milosevic got off the hook by permanently holding his breath...
Indeed.
If only he knew about "Manslaughter doctrine"... :lol:
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are the marines about to be sacrificed to pay for the navy. there's a story in the times but its behing their paywall so can't get to it

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I was told months ago that they were looking at effectively dismantling 43 Commando and put 42 in its place, leaving only 40 and 45 in the "frontline" amphibious role.
Seems like the option is still being pushed.
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Royal Marines to be restructured in line with growing Royal Navy
The First Sea Lord Admiral Sir Philip Jones confirms that the Royal Marines will be restructured to better balance a growing Royal Navy.With billions being invested into a growing Royal Navy, the Royal Marines have decided to restructure to better balance skills across the force.

The move comes as part of the Navy’s regular review of its structure to ensure that it suits the operational demands of the 21st century, and is appropriately balanced for the future with 400 more personnel, more ships, new aircraft carriers and submarines entering front line service.

Around half of the 200 roles being repurposed are backroom function roles, like drivers and administrative staff. Freeing these up to be carried out by Reservists and civilians will enable skills to be used more appropriately across the Navy.

The other half of the restructure comes as part of plans developed by 3 Commando Brigade, who are responsible for the deployment of the Marines, who decided it would be beneficial to the Corps to make 42 Commando a specialised Maritime Operations unit.

A Royal Marines Commando performs roles ranging from maritime operations like countering piracy and protecting our trade routes across the globe, to land-based operations like warfighting and peace-keeping. Under this re-balancing, 42 Commando will become the specialised, go-to unit for maritime operations – meaning some of their posts, like heavy weapons specialists, can be reallocated across the Navy.

No Royal Marines will be made redundant as a result of today’s news – when those in the roles which have been identified for repurposing leave, their position will simply transfer to a different area of the Navy.
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right so is 43 disbanding or is it effectivly FPGRM being cut out and expanded and the old Comaachio group core activities of Special weapons guard force and specialist counter terrorism being expanded?

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marktigger wrote: FPGRM being cut out and expanded and the old Comaachio group core activities
It was not long ago (5 yrs?) when it was deemed politically expedient to give those "a Cdo n:o"
- in fact the combined headcount was/is higher than in the "normal" Cdos
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wasn't an element of the fleet protection part of 43 Navy?

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Happy 353rd Birthday, Royal Marines!
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(Forces TV) 27th July 2018
The Royal Marines Viking Squadron are conducting live firing trials on Castlemartin, as part of Exercise Iron Fist. The amphibious tracked Viking all-terrain vehicle has long been a part of the Commandos' armoured protection arsenal.

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Here is what 42 Commandos new structure looks like.

Juliet Company - Maritime assault (Boarding)
Kilo Company - Support, Augment, Liaise and Train (SALT)
Lima Company - Joint Personnel Recovery
Mike Company - Force Protection
Support Coy (Mortar/Recce/Sigs/Int)
Logistic Coy

They still maintain organic fires. K and L company still maintain heavy weapons troops.

Juliet company was transferred from 43 Commando. A new squadron was formed in 43 Commando to replace it in 2018.

Honestly I think what they did transforming 42 commando in to a Maritime Operations Commando was smart. It gave the fleet a much needed dedicated Commando. Dedicated force protection and boarding teams. A dedicated JPR for the carrier task force and a dedicated force for training operations, like the Army have done with Spec Inf. The Commando can still be used to support 40 and 45 Commando should it be required. They are now more in line with 16 AA, two battalions, and a third supporting special forces/fleet operations.

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benny14 wrote:Here is what 42 Commandos new structure looks like.

Juliet Company - Maritime assault (Boarding)
Kilo Company - Support, Augment, Liaise and Train (SALT)
Lima Company - Joint Personnel Recovery
Mike Company - Force Protection
Support Coy (Mortar/Recce/Sigs/Int)
Logistic Coy

They still maintain organic fires. K and L company still maintain heavy weapons troops.

Juliet company was transferred from 43 Commando. A new squadron was formed in 43 Commando to replace it in 2018.

Honestly I think what they did transforming 42 commando in to a Maritime Operations Commando was smart. It gave the fleet a much needed dedicated Commando. Dedicated force protection and boarding teams. A dedicated JPR for the carrier task force and a dedicated force for training operations, like the Army have done with Spec Inf. The Commando can still be used to support 40 and 45 Commando should it be required. They are now more in line with 16 AA, two battalions, and a third supporting special forces/fleet operations.
Well if you accept that a marine battalion ( if even that ) is now the maximum of UK amphibious capability, then yes...
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Yes a single battalions is all we should aspire to from now on. The RM were never really meant to launch larger operations, yes move the entire Brigade to Norway for example but that has always been an exercise is shipping rather than amphibious operations. AS raiders they are a force with few equals, but their main ability is to get to where they are needed quickly.

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