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Teal 33 caused havoc of their own, ‘shooting down’ two AH-1V Cobra gunships with the Javelin
Interesting. Shows alternatives to bringing HVM/Starstreak as a SAM to the field.

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As part of Littoral Response Group (Experimentation) (LRG(X)), personnel used the waters, shores and exercise areas of the island to see how drones, autonomous equipment, new technology and kit can transform the way Royal Marines operate.

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29 Jun 2020, 16:15
Text lifted from The Telegraph:
"It is envisaged one LRG will be permanently east of Suez, with the Royal Navy facility in Bahrain acting as a staging post.

The second Group will focus on Nato’s northern flank, working closely with Norwegian amphibious forces, and the Mediterranean.

The three Bay-Class Landing Ship Dock Auxiliary ships, crewed by the Royal Fleet Auxiliary, will be the likely hosts, initially at least, with additional medical and aviation facilities developed in the near future."
At around the same time the new "autonomous advance force company" size was also announced:
"More than 150 Royal Marines and Army Commandos will form the new Vanguard Strike Company this autumn, and will have access to "game-changing technology and weaponry", the Royal Navy said."
and as the indications have been that about 200 would need to be accommodated for extended periods, this leaves c. 50 for
- medical facilities
- ship-to-shore connectors (helo crew, boat handlers)
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Delighted the 150 strong vanguard company are going to get some fancy trousers and a new rifle, but i really want to know about the other part of the 3Cdo establishment.

The other ~6000 people that make up 3Cdo. The Commandos. The Engineers. The Loggies. The Fires. The Boaty People. The Drivey People. Oh, and the LPD's, LSD's. LPH (role), etc.

From what is described thus far 3Cdo could quite happily shrink to 2.5 (adminstrative) commandos, with most of the enabling formations stripped away. Let's say and total establishment of half what it is now. ~3000.

When do we find out what FCF means? It can't stay a secret forever; any ConOps so fragile it cannot be revealed really isn't worth pursueing...

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https://www.pscp.tv/w/1yNGaWddOpVxj

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jedibeeftrix wrote: happily shrink to [x, y z], with most of the enabling formations stripped away.
I read the news/ announcement quite differently:
- the 150 has Army enablers mixed in
- though all three Bays have been 'gesticulated' as the mobile bases, it has not been based on a any announcement... but so far is, rather, a press story
- it is not likely that the MCM mothership role, for one of the three Bays, will be 'abolished' when we take into account all that is going on in the 'wider Gulf region'
- however, the EoS element would use Bahrain as a staging post, so...
If any of the three Bays would need to go into dock, the third one there could - temporarily - step into role

The moral of the story is that for this to work (rotation. lengthy stays onboard), we would need about 3 or 4 'Vanguard Coys' ... I think the naming is a reference to prototyping which elements would be most needed, as accommodation - even after any modifications - would be the limiting factor

3 or 4 companies... a Cdo :idea:
- one Med
- one elsewhere, West of the Med
- two rotating through the ship EoS

Now I'll put that in the hat, add some Maritime Security (e.g Atalanta), the two Cdos that retain the heavy weapons (ie. can be used as manouevre bns) and the folks that guard anything nuclear around these islands
... and what do I get :?:

I don't know; let's wait for the answer
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Rumour suggest a reduction in RM of 400 (and 300 likewise from RAF Regt).

Indications are that this is 400 from 3Cdo in toto, and not 400 from the three and a half Commandos themselves.

~6,600 > ~6,100 rather than ~2,200 > ~1,600 (which might indicate an even larger cut in the brigade)

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/roya ... -nz9hsm03t

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I hate journalistic puff pieces like this.

They always invariably don't stand up to close scrutiny and will be resented by the allies in question because the details of this exercise will almost have certainly been leaked by someone in the RM, who is present at the exercise.

People should keep their mouths shut.
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(Forces News) 12th July 2022
Specialists in small craft operations and amphibious warfare, 47 Commando (Raiding Group) Royal Marines are preparing for overseas training in the Netherlands.

Briohny Williams met up with the marines and found out more about their landing craft.

More: https://www.forces.net/services/royal-m ... ng-holland

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Cutting out operation on the Black Sea Fleet?

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Royal Marines were at the tip of the spear during the largest military exercise in the Southern Hemisphere.
The UK’s Commando Force are ramping up their presence in the Indo-Pacific and, after a mission to South Korea earlier this year, were deployed to Australia – embarking on helicopter carrier HMAS Adelaide – as 13 nations demonstrated their combined military might.


https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-l ... -australia
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Will be interesting to see how things grow with the deployment of LRG-S with a LSU at it core

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Tempest414 wrote: 14 Aug 2023, 10:45 Will be interesting to see how things grow with the deployment of LRG-S with a LSU at it core
It will be interesting to see if an LPD reappears this side of an election.

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“HMS Trent sailed from Gibraltar with an expert boarding team of Royal Marines and a Puma surveillance drone, tasked with increasing stability across the Gulf of Guinea through training, in order to protect around £6 billion of UK trade that passes through the region.”

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/royal-n ... -security/

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Jackstar wrote: 15 Aug 2023, 10:00 “HMS Trent sailed from Gibraltar with an expert boarding team of Royal Marines and a Puma surveillance drone, tasked with increasing stability across the Gulf of Guinea through training, in order to protect around £6 billion of UK trade that passes through the region.”

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/royal-n ... -security/
As said this is a good first step the Puma is OK but a Camcopter with I master radar would be better for gathering pattern of life

Also we should remember how bad thing are off the west coast of Africa just last year a Danish boarding party was fired on when trying to carry out a boarding op in the same area of operations
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Knight's Stoner 1: The Royal Marines (and British Army) new rifle explained

(Forces News) 8th September 2023
British special operations soldiers and Royal Marines will soon be more lethal on the battlefield thanks to a £90m contract to deliver a new modern, high-precision rifle.

The Knight's Stoner 1 (KS-1), designated L403A1, boasts a muzzle signature reduction system, an improved optical sighting system and crucially can be more easily shot from the left shoulder than the current L85 assault rifle.

Royal Marines tested the rifle on exercise in Norway earlier this year.

Royal Marines hit the range with new KS-1 (L403A1) assault rifle

(Forces News) 27th October 2023
The Royal Marines have been getting hands-on experience with their newest weapon – the Knight's Stoner rifle, better known as the KS-1.

Their training at Barry Buddon saw them spend time on the range and practising close-quarter shooting with the new rifle, which has several features to improve accuracy and ergonomics.

The KS-1, which is designated L403A1 in British service, boasts a muzzle signature reduction system, an improved optical sighting system and can be fired from the left shoulder more easily than the current L85 assault rifle.
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army artillery regt to go?


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Royal Marines
The Commando helicopter reconnaissance specialists at the forefront of the battle.

https://www.forces.net/services/royal-m ... tions-team

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