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I believe its all being contracted out to a private company some time next year

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It is a shame that there will not be a (3rd QEC) Carrier alongside in Portsmouth for this occasion.

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Royal Navy Hawks - Retirement Flypast - Portsmouth

(AeroviewTV) 17th March 2022
The Royal Navy BAE Hawk T.1s doing a retirement flypast over Portsmouth, UK.

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Now, who else saw this coming?


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Be interesting to find out how many paint schemes some of these Hawks have had through their years of service in numerous roles.

I met the Arrows in my youth at Biggin Hill where they were based for the Queen's Silver Jubilee, where all their Gnats were lined up together with their Hercules Support Plane. The pilots in red and support crew in blue were chatting to service families the evening before the flypast. I loved the Gnats even though they scared the life out of one two year old Jim at RAF Cranwell when they came from behind the audience one display. It certainly was a very compact plane.

I also remember the Red Arrows Ice lollies we had that summer, where each came with a plastic Red Arrow launched via a rubber band and the Ice Lolly's stick. :D

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Can't keep up with these Jubilees... so which year would that have been? Think I saw Red Arrows in their Gnats in 1968, so a good 10yrs before the switch to Hawks
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Silver Jubilee in 1977. :mrgreen:

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Soon after the Silver Jubilee the Arrows took almost a year off to transfer and train up on the Hawk.

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Dodgy French parts shoot down RAF Training Programme ...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/20 ... -failures/

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If in doubt, blame the French :wave:

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More details from the same visit to Warton...apparently there is some embargoed big news for next week as well...


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Timmymagic wrote: 05 Jul 2023, 15:39 More details from the same visit to Warton...apparently there is some embargoed big news for next week as well...
BAE bought aeralis as "Next Gen Hawk", and are 'in discussions' with HMG to purchase said aircraft to replace the existing Hawk trainer fleet...?

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They could be "Red Kite's"

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jedibeeftrix wrote: 05 Jul 2023, 15:43 BAE bought aeralis as "Next Gen Hawk", and are 'in discussions' with HMG to purchase said aircraft to replace the existing Hawk trainer fleet...?
Given BAE would need to buy out the UAE investors I suspect thats a no...

Same for Red Kites. Plenty of life left in T2

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Clive F wrote: 05 Jul 2023, 16:18 They could be "Red Kite's"
Red kites?

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new guy wrote: 05 Jul 2023, 17:07
Clive F wrote: 05 Jul 2023, 16:18 They could be "Red Kite's"
Red kites?
Boeing/Saab T-7
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If BAE ownership is true, perhaps the Aeralis, being smaller would be known as Kestrel ! It seems about time that the name was re-used.
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jedibeeftrix wrote: 05 Jul 2023, 15:43
Timmymagic wrote: 05 Jul 2023, 15:39 More details from the same visit to Warton...apparently there is some embargoed big news for next week as well...
BAE bought aeralis as "Next Gen Hawk", and are 'in discussions' with HMG to purchase said aircraft to replace the existing Hawk trainer fleet...?
Don't think that's true. Do you have a source?

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Did you spot the question mark at the end? It wasn't a statement
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RichardIC wrote: 06 Jul 2023, 10:29
jedibeeftrix wrote: 05 Jul 2023, 15:43
Timmymagic wrote: 05 Jul 2023, 15:39 More details from the same visit to Warton...apparently there is some embargoed big news for next week as well...
BAE bought aeralis as "Next Gen Hawk", and are 'in discussions' with HMG to purchase said aircraft to replace the existing Hawk trainer fleet...?
Don't think that's true. Do you have a source?
apologies, that is merely humorous speculation on my part. wistful dream rather than serious rumour.
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jedibeeftrix wrote: 07 Jul 2023, 09:34 apologies, that is merely humorous speculation on my part. wistful dream rather than serious rumour.
At least you didn't pitch it as another dreaded 'light attack aircraft'!

Jokes aside, there's three fairly promising aviation start-ups in the UK at the moment: Aeralis, Swift Aircraft and Hill Helicopters

Past experience suggests that, without getting substantial backing or being acquired by a prime, none are likely to make it.

With a more cohesive aerospace strategy you could almost see the potential for collaboration on infrastructure, staff training and systems.
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Jensy wrote: 07 Jul 2023, 15:44
jedibeeftrix wrote: 07 Jul 2023, 09:34 apologies, that is merely humorous speculation on my part. wistful dream rather than serious rumour.
At least you didn't pitch it as another dreaded 'light attack aircraft'!

Jokes aside, there's three fairly promising aviation start-ups in the UK at the moment: Aeralis, Swift Aircraft and Hill Helicopters

Past experience suggests that, without getting substantial backing or being acquired by a prime, none are likely to make it.

With a more cohesive aerospace strategy you could almost see the potential for collaboration on infrastructure, staff training and systems.
Swift is supported by the RAF - I think?
Hill has commercial backing- 650 orders.
VA has apparently 1,000 orders if that means anything. ( I don't personally think they will succeed).
Britten-norman just moved manufacturing to the UK.

Due to NetZero ambitions and many other factors. there are plenty of start-ups or smaller aerospace companies.

The seeds are there. The Hand of God (Government, large corporations) Can support these seeds and allow them to grow.
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