General Atomics MQ-9 Reaper/Protector (UCAV) (RAF)

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Very interesting footage from General Atomics...

Mojave will land and take off from QE with ease...obviously this is not loaded with munitions and we don't know the fuel state, but add wind over the deck and a 25 knot speed from the carrier and it will have no problem whatsoever when its heavily loaded..QE deck length is over 900 feet...

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But landing in a rolling deck?

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dmereifield wrote: 08 Aug 2022, 15:36 But landing in a rolling deck?
With wind over the deck and steaming at a decent rate its going to come in like a Swordfish...pretty much hovering.
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Timmymagic wrote: 08 Aug 2022, 13:20 Mojave will land and take off from QE with ease...obviously this is not loaded with munitions and we don't know the fuel state, but add wind over the deck and a 25 knot speed from the carrier and it will have no problem whatsoever when its heavily loaded..QE deck length is over 900 feet...
Painting an angled landing strip sounds an awful lot cheaper than fitting a mini-EMALS.

I think I read somewhere they were looking at folding wings for Predator-B. I wonder if the same could be done for Mojave. Once you start supporting UAVs onboard, interior space is going to be at a premium. Even on a roomy ship like the QEC.
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Timmymagic wrote: 08 Aug 2022, 15:41
dmereifield wrote: 08 Aug 2022, 15:36 But landing in a rolling deck?
With wind over the deck and steaming at a decent rate its going to come in like a Swordfish...pretty much hovering.
Great, but I was more checking about how difficult it will be landing with the deck moving about

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dmereifield wrote: 08 Aug 2022, 20:55 Great, but I was more checking about how difficult it will be landing with the deck moving about
With the modern precision approach systems it won't be hard at all. Auto landings are safer than manned.
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Jensy wrote: 08 Aug 2022, 20:22 Painting an angled landing strip sounds an awful lot cheaper than fitting a mini-EMALS.

I think I read somewhere they were looking at folding wings for Predator-B. I wonder if the same could be done for Mojave. Once you start supporting UAVs onboard, interior space is going to be at a premium. Even on a roomy ship like the QEC.
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See wing folded examples above...

Here's a press release from GA-ASI in May 2022...basically a Protector RG.1 with a STOL wing like the Grey Eagle derived Mojave, but with a greater span. Should be even better STOL performance, although Protector is larger than MQ-1C Grey Eagle. The protuberance at the base of the lower tail fin is not an arrestor hook, its there to prevent propellor strikes on the deck.

Adding Short-Takeoff & Landing Capability to Industry-Leading RPA Enhances Versatility
SAN DIEGO – 10 May 2022 – To further extend the versatility of its MQ-9B line of Remotely Piloted Aircraft, General Atomics Aeronautical Systems, Inc. (GA-ASI) announced today that it will begin developing a short takeoff and landing (STOL)-capable MQ-9B aircraft, which includes the SkyGuardian® and SeaGuardian® models. GA-ASI is taking on this revolutionary engineering effort to meet an evolving operational environment in contested expeditionary environments.

GA-ASI began STOL development in 2017 as part of its Mojave initiative. STOL capability was initially flown on a modified Gray Eagle Extended Range platform in 2021, but now the company will begin developing STOL on the MQ-9B, a platform already selected by the Royal Air Force, the Belgium Ministry of Defence and the Japan Coast Guard. MQ-9B STOL will combine GA-ASI’s proven long-endurance, highly reliable UAS products with the versatility to execute missions in more austere locations, opening the operational envelope for commanders across all Services and geographic locations.

The MQ-9B STOL configuration will consist of an optional wing and tail kit that can be installed in less than a day. The core aircraft and its sub-systems remain the same. Operators can perform the modification in a hangar or on a flight line, delivering a capability that otherwise would require the purchase of a whole new aircraft.

“Imagine taking the hard top off your Jeep. You lift it off, stow it in your garage and now you’ve got an open vehicle. If it rains, you put the hard top back on. We’re the same. Take a standard MQ-9B, put the STOL kit on, and then go fly,” said GA-ASI President David R. Alexander.

MQ-9B STOL, which is part of GA-ASI’s Mojave series of unmanned aircraft, also presents an opportunity for future operations aboard an aircraft carrier or big-deck amphibious assault ship. The wings fold so that MQ-9B STOL could be parked on the deck or in the hangar bay, just like other naval aircraft. When it’s time to launch, operators will start the aircraft, unfold the wings, and take off over the bow without the need for catapults. GA-ASI believes the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps will take note of this innovation as it opens the door to persistent and long-range Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance (ISR) operations over blue water.
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