Raytheon Sentinel R1 (RAF)

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Another very short sighted decision by the MoD :cry:

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The numbers


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17 years, should have easily been double that...

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This is the problem with micro fleets. Tiny numbers offering a niche capability. Just not sustainable.

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14 yrs... OK, a quick-fit

But: where are the statements about the (or not just one?) replacement capability?
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They will probably bolt something onto the Protectors eventually.

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Most requested air assets we had

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The Canberra PR9 was also in very high demand, especially my the Americans.

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Lord Jim wrote:The Canberra PR9 was also in very high demand, especially my the Americans.
Well, the U2 camera and so along.

But not mentioned in the GW1 assets... while it was definitely 'there'
- from Cyprus; and not 'seen' :)
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2022 prediction: "The US Army has invented a spy plane out of a business jet. We're the first in the world to do it, so ner ner ner ner ner ner.." :roll: :thumbdown:

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I saw a comment on Twitter that one reason Sentinel was binned was that it was a "corps-level asset for a brigade-level army". Ouch.

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SKB wrote: 17 Nov 2021, 17:41 2022 prediction: "The US Army has invented a spy plane out of a business jet. We're the first in the world to do it, so ner ner ner ner ner ner.." :roll: :thumbdown:

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KiwiMuzz wrote: 17 Nov 2021, 20:29 I saw a comment on Twitter that one reason Sentinel was binned was that it was a "corps-level asset for a brigade-level army". Ouch.
It somewhat makes a sense. on the other hand, things like Sentinels give additional strength to "brigade(if even that)-level Army".
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Lucky for us then we don’t provide a corps level HQ for nato or are looking to invest in long range land fires capabilities that may require a standoff long stare capability to ID enemy movements along the nato border for engagement.

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abc123 wrote: 19 Nov 2021, 13:54
KiwiMuzz wrote: 17 Nov 2021, 20:29 I saw a comment on Twitter that one reason Sentinel was binned was that it was a "corps-level asset for a brigade-level army". Ouch.
It somewhat makes a sense. on the other hand, things like Sentinels give additional strength to "brigade(if even that)-level Army".
Definitely, even though the truth behind the comment stings, being able to bring Sentinel to a coalition can help offset the smaller land component.

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