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Okay, it's the Daily Mail and Daily Star, but...

SAS Go Into Syria to Kill ISIS Chief: UK 'Boots on the Ground' for Ferocious Joint US Gunbattle that Killed Terror Financier Abu Sayaff
British Special Forces have taken part in a ferocious battle to kill a Syrian-based Islamic State commander – even though Parliament has yet to approve any UK ‘boots on the ground’ in the country.

The crack SAS troops joined US Forces on the mission in May this year. To keep their participation a secret, they wore US uniforms and carried American weapons.

The elite Special Air Service soldiers were flown into the country’s Deir ez-Zor governorate in a US Osprey aircraft before carrying out a daring reconnaissance mission near the compound of top IS financier Abu Sayyaf.

News of the British role in the mission, disclosed today for the first time, comes as The Mail on Sunday reports details of a plot, originating in Syria, to kill the Queen.

In response to this, the SAS has increased its operational tempo in the war-torn country to try to eliminate individuals who pose a direct threat to UK security.
Read More: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ailymailUK


Executioner Killed: SAS Sniper Took out Isis Thug to Save Boy and Dad
AN SAS sniper saved the lives of a father and son just seconds before they were about to be executed by a knife-wielding jihadi.

He killed the would-be executioner from a range of 1,000m with a head shot before taking out three other members of Isis in Syria.

The father and his eight-year-old boy were just seconds from death after refusing to denounce their faith.

Both are Shia Muslims who Isis regard as "infidels". But the pair refused and were facing imminent death.

The shooting occurred last month in Northern Syria, close to the border with Turkey where the SAS unit had been conducting covert patrols.

Defence sources said the British special forces were alerted by an Iraqi spy.
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The Armchair Soldier wrote:Okay, it's the Daily Mail and Daily Star, but...
I'll get the Saxa.

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Cameron once more promises a boost to special forces, but what i read in the Pegasus Journal suggest that in the meanwhile the 1 Para / UKSFSG has actually effectively lost G company by migrating the sniper platoon into the Support Company and the fire support groups into the rifle companies (which have lost one platoon each in exchange).

Might be temporary. Maybe.

The idea is a bit like the Machine Gun Platoon vanishing from regular Light Role battalions to be split into GPMG Sections assigned to each Rifle Coy as partial replacement for the loss of 1 rifle platoon... and this is not temporary.
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SAS sniper kills five ISIS with three bullets!
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SAS Legend John 'Brummie' Stokes Dies
ONE of the most famous members of Hereford's SAS regiment has died.

John 'Brummie' Stokes helped to make the elite unit famous on an international scale after climbing Everest in the 1970s.

The soldier, who received an MBE, was also well known for his work with the Taste for Adventure centre in Credenhill.

He was born in 1945 in the mining village of Hamstead, just outside Birmingham and it was at 17-years-old that he became a military man and after three years service with the Royal Green Jackets he enlisted into the SAS regiment.
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Dozens of SAS veterans rejoin elite squad to tackle threat to UK from ISIS

Around 30 former troops have re-enlisted while 30 more have been told to "standby" as the unit remains on high alert after the Paris attacks

Dozens of SAS veterans have re-enlisted with the elite regiment because of the threat from Islamic State.

Up to 60 SAS men have contacted the regiment’s Hereford HQ in recent months wanting to rejoin the crack unit.

They include dozens of battle-hardened veterans who fought in the Iraq and Afghanistan campaigns and on many top secret missions.

Around 30 of the troops have rejoined, while many more have been told to “standby”.

The regiment has been on high alert since the Paris attacks - with troops stationed in a secret location close to London throughout Christmas.

And the regiment’s famous counter-terrorist team, also known as the Special Projects Group, have patrolled the streets in unmarked cars.

The drive behind the re-enlistment is partly due to the lack of opportunities in the security sector, a traditional recruiting ground for members of the special forces.

But increasingly commanders are finding men wanting to rejoin so they can take the fight to Islamic State in Syria, Iraq and Libya.

The Army traditionally welcomes ex-soldiers back into service providing their skill set is still relevant and they can meet the age and fitness requirements.

A defence source said: “A lot of guys left the SAS in the last two years for the private sector.

“But it didn’t offer the same buzz and the financial rewards aren’t what they used to be.

“A lot of the guys are still in their 20’s and still have a lot to offer the regiment.

Britain’s entire special forces group which consists of the SAS, the SBS, the Special Reconnaissance Regiment, Defence Human Intelligence and the Special Forces Support Group, is under strength.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/do ... te-7294522

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Remarkable, I was just down the road at Morrisons and noticed another newspaper (didn't see which one) reporting SAS SQUAD BLOWN UP BY ISIS IN IRAQ

Come home, and it turns out to be "three men injured by shrapnel during firefight who got lifted home."

Oh tabloids...

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The MOD do not speculate, discuss SF.

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arfah wrote:
Tinman wrote:The MOD do not speculate, discuss SF.
The Daily Mail certainly does!

Here's their latest.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ht-UK.html
MV22 in RAF service. Who would have thought that it could happen so quickly and secretly!! Best dust of my fast roping gloves.

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They must simply have been getting taxi rides on the CV-22 of the 7th US Special Forces squadron in Mildenhall and someone got over-excited.

Something supposedly will happen post-SDSR 2015, however. Special Forces reportedly expect either Chinook AAR probes and a couple of tanker kits for C-130J short; or indeed a V-22 purchase. The latter would also interest the Navy for well known reasons, but money is always the problem.
Gut feeling is that Director SF is aiming high and pulling on the rope banging about the need to replace the Lynx of 657 Sqn JSFSW. It even killed off the Wildcat LAH that was announced in 2011, clearly in the hope of getting something more...

Whether the gamble pays off or the force simply shrinks by another squadron when Lynx AH9A withdraws, is all to be seen...
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Possibly a grain of truth, should such an attack break out in London, I can very much imagine the US will be more than happy to go "Hop in the Osprey" to the UKSF deployed to the area. Allies after all.

So it's a "capability" in the broad sense, but I doubt it's an acquirement.

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RetroSicotte wrote:Possibly a grain of truth, should such an attack break out in London, I can very much imagine the US will be more than happy to go "Hop in the Osprey" to the UKSF deployed to the area. Allies after all.

So it's a "capability" in the broad sense, but I doubt it's an acquirement.
It's a "want" not a need, that being said there is a want for JPR on a serious level, MV22 fits that need nicely, but we have the chinook.

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where are the USAF in europes based? so bit of Joint training possibly?

suspect this will run and run like the UKSF's MH60 black hawks!

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I would also point out the long game: While the current government and the Osprey may never walk down the aisle, giving UK troops experience with tilt-rotors now would be beneficial if something more affordable like Bell's Valor comes on the market down the road. Especially if any of those troopers that spend time in an Osprey subsequently ends up in Parliament.

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Halidon wrote: if something more affordable like Bell's Valor comes on the market
Do you have any guesstimates at what sort of price fraction that might happen?
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ArmChairCivvy wrote:
Halidon wrote: if something more affordable like Bell's Valor comes on the market
Do you have any guesstimates at what sort of price fraction that might happen?
The target is in the neighborhood of US $30-35 million, last I heard.

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A steal! A basic Merlin coststhat much, and more than doubles when you put the ASW gubbings (not to mention the AEW) on
- won't mention the Wildcat at £27m as it is well known that the batch was very suboptimal indeed
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The American predicted unit cost and the true cost to an export partner are very different things though.

Nevertheless it is an attractive looking aircraft. It would be nice if the did a folding version for us.
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A London Daily Mail report that the V-22 is “the SAS’s deadly new weapon in the war against Islamic State terrorists threatening to bring murder and bloodshed to the streets of Britain” has Pentagon and Osprey fleet insiders giggling and Bell-Boeing executives doing some wishful thinking.
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UK Special Forces 'Blow Up IS Suicide Truck'

British forces reportedly fired a missile at an IS vehicle rigged with explosives as it approached the city of Misrata in Libya.

British special forces have been praised for saving lives after reportedly blowing up an Islamic State (IS) "suicide truck" in Libya earlier this month.

UK forces fired a missile at a truck, doubling up as a bomb, as it approached a bridge towards the city of Misrata, destroying the vehicle, a Libyan military commander has been quoted as saying.

Commander Durat of Misrata's Third Force militia told The Times the incident happened on 12 May, with UK forces taking decisive action.

He described how special forces calculated the co-ordinates and ranges required for a successful attack, saying the explosion "blew up the suicide truck with a huge explosion, the biggest we have seen yet".

"Our British friends seemed quite calm about it that day," Commander Durat said, adding that no Libyan militia forces were killed in the explosion.

http://news.sky.com/story/1702307/uk-sp ... cide-truck

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The SAS did their upgraded L119s it seems:

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Cropped from a picture in The Sun a few weeks ago

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"SAS using Ospreys over London in anti-terror training exercises" ???
DAILY MAIL ( :roll: )Videos & Photos: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ummer.html

How would they know?!

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