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New italian LSS (Logistic Support Ship) will be Christened "Vulcano".
Rendering updated:
Rumors on main engines winner: MAN, with
- 2 x propulsion engines MAN 20V32/44CR , 12 MW eachone
and then,
- 4 x electric diesel generators, 2 MW eachone
- 2 x electric engines, 1,5 MW eachone
- 1 x emergency diesel generator, 1 MW
Rendering updated:
Rumors on main engines winner: MAN, with
- 2 x propulsion engines MAN 20V32/44CR , 12 MW eachone
and then,
- 4 x electric diesel generators, 2 MW eachone
- 2 x electric engines, 1,5 MW eachone
- 1 x emergency diesel generator, 1 MW
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Updates on new LSS Vulcano:
- 2 x propulsion engines M.A.N. 20V32/44CR , 12.000 kW eachone.
- 4 x electric diesel generators M.A.N. 6L27/38, 2.040 kW eachone.
Confirmed:
- 1 x Selex ES RAN-21S, Surveillance Radar
- 2 x Janus-N, Selex ES stabilised electro-optical equipment
- 2 x LRAD (Long Range Acoustic Device)
- 2 x OTO Melara KBA 25/80 mm, remotized
Only FFBNW (fitted for but not with):
- 1 x OTO Melara 76/62mm Strales
- 1 x fire direction radar, new bi-band Selex ES for Strales
- EW systems (RESM & CESM)
- 2 x OTO Melara ODLS-20 (decoys launching systems)
- 1 x WASS towed array sonar (anti-torpedo)
"Vulcano" Class will replace actually 3 Italian Navy AORs:
- 1 x Etna 13.400 t ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_ship_Etna_(A5326) )
- 2 x Stromboli & Vesuvio, 8.700 t ( https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classe_Stromboli )
- 2 x propulsion engines M.A.N. 20V32/44CR , 12.000 kW eachone.
- 4 x electric diesel generators M.A.N. 6L27/38, 2.040 kW eachone.
Confirmed:
- 1 x Selex ES RAN-21S, Surveillance Radar
- 2 x Janus-N, Selex ES stabilised electro-optical equipment
- 2 x LRAD (Long Range Acoustic Device)
- 2 x OTO Melara KBA 25/80 mm, remotized
Only FFBNW (fitted for but not with):
- 1 x OTO Melara 76/62mm Strales
- 1 x fire direction radar, new bi-band Selex ES for Strales
- EW systems (RESM & CESM)
- 2 x OTO Melara ODLS-20 (decoys launching systems)
- 1 x WASS towed array sonar (anti-torpedo)
"Vulcano" Class will replace actually 3 Italian Navy AORs:
- 1 x Etna 13.400 t ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_ship_Etna_(A5326) )
- 2 x Stromboli & Vesuvio, 8.700 t ( https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classe_Stromboli )
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Welcome to the forum, eagle spotters. Thank you for sharing news on the Italian Armed Forces.
What will be the future composition of the Italian Navy? What will be its major fleet units by 2025? I've lost track of all the new ships that have been posted in this thread.
What will be the future composition of the Italian Navy? What will be its major fleet units by 2025? I've lost track of all the new ships that have been posted in this thread.
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Hi and thanks for wellcome.
Considering only already financed vessels, this is the future Italian Navy, about to 2026:
Carrier
- C550 Cavour CVL (27.900 t) - in service since 2008
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavour_(C_550)
LHD/LPD
- L989? Trieste LHD (32.000 t) - in service since 2022
- L9894 San Giusto LPD (8.000 t) - in service since 1994
(Italian Navy is lobbying on Government to founding another one LHD Trieste class to replace L9893 San Marco LPD in early years '20, still unfunded)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Giorg ... sport_dock
Destroyers
- D553 Andrea Doria (7.300 t) - in service since 2007
- D554 Caio Duilio (7.300 t) - in service since 2009
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_d ... ia_(D_553)
Frigates
- F560 (ex D560) Durand de la Penne (5.400 t) - in service since 1993
- F561 (ex D561) Francesco Mimbelli (5.400 t) - in service since 1993
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durand_de ... _destroyer
- F590 Carlo Bergamini FREMM GP (6.700 t) - in service since 2013
- F591 Virginio Fasan FREMM ASW (6.700 t) - in service since 2013
- F592 Carlo Margottini FREMM ASW (6.700 t) - in service since 2014
- F593 Carabiniere FREMM ASW (6.700 t) - in service since 2015
- F594 Alpino FREMM ASW (6.700 t) - in service since spring 2016
- F595 Luigi Rizzo FREMM GP (6.700 t) - in service since 2017
- F596 Federico Martinengo FREMM GP (6.700 t) - in service since 2018
- F597 unknown FREMM GP (6.700 t) - in service since 2019
- F598 unknown FREMM GP/AAW (6.700 t) - in service since 2021
- F599 unknown FREMM GP/AAW (6.700 t) - in service since 2022
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FREMM_mul ... se_frigate
- FXXX PPA 1 Light (5.000/5.500 t) - in service since 2021
- FXXX PPA 2 Light (5.000/5.500 t) - in service since 2022
- FXXX PPA 3 Light+ (5.000/5.500 t) - in service since 2023
- FXXX PPA 4 Full (5.000/5.500 t) - in service since 2024
- FXXX PPA 5 Light+ (5.000/5.500 t) - in service since 2024
- FXXX PPA 6 Light+ (5.000/5.500 t) - in service since 2025
- FXXX PPA 7 Full (5.000/5.500 t) - in service since 2026
Patrollers/OPV
- P490 Comandante Cigala Fulgosi (1.512 t) - in service since 2001
- P491 Comandante Borsini (1.512 t) - in service since 2001
- P492 Comandante Bettica (1.512 t) - in service since 2002
- P493 Comandante Foscari (1.512 t) - in service since 2002
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classe_Comandanti
- P409 Sirio (1.518 t) - in service since 2003
- P410 Orione (1.518 t) - in service since 2003
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirio-class_patrol_vessel
- P401 Costellazioni (1.500 t) - in service since 1989
- P402 Libra (1.500 t) - in service since 1991
- P403 Spica (1.500 t) - in service since 1991
- P404 Vega (1.500 t) - in service since 1990
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classe_Cassiopea
(Italian Navy is lobbying on Government to founding replace Costellazioni Class - in middle years '20 - with new PPA 8, PPA 9, PPA 10, still unfunded)
SSK
U212A Class
- S526 Salvatore Todaro AIP SSK (1.830 t) - in service since 2006
- S527 Scirè AIP SSK (1.830 t) - in service since 2007
- S528 Pietro Venuti AIP SSK (1.830 t) - in service since 2016
- S529 Romeo Romei AIP SSK (1.830 t) - in service since 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_212_submarine
Sauro Class (IV Batch)
- S524 Primo Longobardo (1.862 t) - in service since 1993
- S525 Gianfranco Gazzana Priaroggia (1.862 t) - in service since 1995
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classe_Sauro
(Italian Navy is lobbying on Government to founding a third batch of U212A to replace Sauro Class in middle years '20, and follow-on another 2 New Generation SSK, to rebuilding an 8 SSKs fleet, still unfunded)
Minehunters
- M5554 Gaeta (733 t) - in service since 1992
- M5555 Termoli (733 t) - in service since 1992
- M5556 Alghero (733 t) - in service since 1993
- M5557 Numana (733 t) - in service since 1993
- M5558 Crotone (733 t) - in service since 1994
- M5559 Viareggio (733 t) - in service since 1994
- M5560 Chioggia (733 t) - in service since 1996
- M5561 Rimini (733 t) - in service since 1996
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lerici-class_minehunter
(Italian Navy is lobbying on Government to founding a new MHC/OPV 1.000/1.500 t multifunctional class - COV, Cacciamine Oceanici Veloci - to replace Gaeta MHC Class, in middle years '20, still unfunded)
LSS Logistic Support Ship
- A532? Vulcano (26.000 t) - in service since 2019
- A5326 Etna (13.400 t) - in service since 1998
(Italian Navy is lobbying on Government to founding a second LSS Vulcano Class, to replace A5329 Vesuvio AOR, in the early years '20, still unfunded)
ELINT vessel
- A5340 Elettra (3.180 t) - in service since 2003
Research Vessel
- polar capable hull, just financed for Euro 250 milion and delivery about in 2019
ARS - Submarine Rescue and Divers Support Vessel
(USSP - planned for a 10.000 t vessel, Euro 300 millions, still unfunded)
Considering only already financed vessels, this is the future Italian Navy, about to 2026:
Carrier
- C550 Cavour CVL (27.900 t) - in service since 2008
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavour_(C_550)
LHD/LPD
- L989? Trieste LHD (32.000 t) - in service since 2022
- L9894 San Giusto LPD (8.000 t) - in service since 1994
(Italian Navy is lobbying on Government to founding another one LHD Trieste class to replace L9893 San Marco LPD in early years '20, still unfunded)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Giorg ... sport_dock
Destroyers
- D553 Andrea Doria (7.300 t) - in service since 2007
- D554 Caio Duilio (7.300 t) - in service since 2009
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_d ... ia_(D_553)
Frigates
- F560 (ex D560) Durand de la Penne (5.400 t) - in service since 1993
- F561 (ex D561) Francesco Mimbelli (5.400 t) - in service since 1993
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durand_de ... _destroyer
- F590 Carlo Bergamini FREMM GP (6.700 t) - in service since 2013
- F591 Virginio Fasan FREMM ASW (6.700 t) - in service since 2013
- F592 Carlo Margottini FREMM ASW (6.700 t) - in service since 2014
- F593 Carabiniere FREMM ASW (6.700 t) - in service since 2015
- F594 Alpino FREMM ASW (6.700 t) - in service since spring 2016
- F595 Luigi Rizzo FREMM GP (6.700 t) - in service since 2017
- F596 Federico Martinengo FREMM GP (6.700 t) - in service since 2018
- F597 unknown FREMM GP (6.700 t) - in service since 2019
- F598 unknown FREMM GP/AAW (6.700 t) - in service since 2021
- F599 unknown FREMM GP/AAW (6.700 t) - in service since 2022
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FREMM_mul ... se_frigate
- FXXX PPA 1 Light (5.000/5.500 t) - in service since 2021
- FXXX PPA 2 Light (5.000/5.500 t) - in service since 2022
- FXXX PPA 3 Light+ (5.000/5.500 t) - in service since 2023
- FXXX PPA 4 Full (5.000/5.500 t) - in service since 2024
- FXXX PPA 5 Light+ (5.000/5.500 t) - in service since 2024
- FXXX PPA 6 Light+ (5.000/5.500 t) - in service since 2025
- FXXX PPA 7 Full (5.000/5.500 t) - in service since 2026
Patrollers/OPV
- P490 Comandante Cigala Fulgosi (1.512 t) - in service since 2001
- P491 Comandante Borsini (1.512 t) - in service since 2001
- P492 Comandante Bettica (1.512 t) - in service since 2002
- P493 Comandante Foscari (1.512 t) - in service since 2002
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classe_Comandanti
- P409 Sirio (1.518 t) - in service since 2003
- P410 Orione (1.518 t) - in service since 2003
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirio-class_patrol_vessel
- P401 Costellazioni (1.500 t) - in service since 1989
- P402 Libra (1.500 t) - in service since 1991
- P403 Spica (1.500 t) - in service since 1991
- P404 Vega (1.500 t) - in service since 1990
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classe_Cassiopea
(Italian Navy is lobbying on Government to founding replace Costellazioni Class - in middle years '20 - with new PPA 8, PPA 9, PPA 10, still unfunded)
SSK
U212A Class
- S526 Salvatore Todaro AIP SSK (1.830 t) - in service since 2006
- S527 Scirè AIP SSK (1.830 t) - in service since 2007
- S528 Pietro Venuti AIP SSK (1.830 t) - in service since 2016
- S529 Romeo Romei AIP SSK (1.830 t) - in service since 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_212_submarine
Sauro Class (IV Batch)
- S524 Primo Longobardo (1.862 t) - in service since 1993
- S525 Gianfranco Gazzana Priaroggia (1.862 t) - in service since 1995
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classe_Sauro
(Italian Navy is lobbying on Government to founding a third batch of U212A to replace Sauro Class in middle years '20, and follow-on another 2 New Generation SSK, to rebuilding an 8 SSKs fleet, still unfunded)
Minehunters
- M5554 Gaeta (733 t) - in service since 1992
- M5555 Termoli (733 t) - in service since 1992
- M5556 Alghero (733 t) - in service since 1993
- M5557 Numana (733 t) - in service since 1993
- M5558 Crotone (733 t) - in service since 1994
- M5559 Viareggio (733 t) - in service since 1994
- M5560 Chioggia (733 t) - in service since 1996
- M5561 Rimini (733 t) - in service since 1996
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lerici-class_minehunter
(Italian Navy is lobbying on Government to founding a new MHC/OPV 1.000/1.500 t multifunctional class - COV, Cacciamine Oceanici Veloci - to replace Gaeta MHC Class, in middle years '20, still unfunded)
LSS Logistic Support Ship
- A532? Vulcano (26.000 t) - in service since 2019
- A5326 Etna (13.400 t) - in service since 1998
(Italian Navy is lobbying on Government to founding a second LSS Vulcano Class, to replace A5329 Vesuvio AOR, in the early years '20, still unfunded)
ELINT vessel
- A5340 Elettra (3.180 t) - in service since 2003
Research Vessel
- polar capable hull, just financed for Euro 250 milion and delivery about in 2019
ARS - Submarine Rescue and Divers Support Vessel
(USSP - planned for a 10.000 t vessel, Euro 300 millions, still unfunded)
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Thank you for posting such an insightful list. The Italian Navy is shaping up to become a very capable navy indeed.
I find it strange that our recent defence review upgraded Germany to a "Tier 1" security partner (alongside France and the U.S.) but completely left out Italy. From what I've read, Italy is as just capable as Germany in a military sense (perhaps, more so) and it seems to be a lot more active in tackling global security issues. I'm hopeful that we'll reevaluate in a future defence review.
I find it strange that our recent defence review upgraded Germany to a "Tier 1" security partner (alongside France and the U.S.) but completely left out Italy. From what I've read, Italy is as just capable as Germany in a military sense (perhaps, more so) and it seems to be a lot more active in tackling global security issues. I'm hopeful that we'll reevaluate in a future defence review.
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Italy has, no doubt a v sensible defence policy, and they are building their capabilities accordingly.The Armchair Soldier wrote:I find it strange that our recent defence review upgraded Germany to a "Tier 1" security partner (alongside France and the U.S.) but completely left out Italy. From what I've read, Italy is as just capable as Germany in a military sense (perhaps, more so) and it seems to be a lot more active in tackling global security issues. I'm hopeful that we'll reevaluate in a future defence review.
Let's take the UK view, and segments:
- straight line to the East, and to the N of it =Germany
- not to mention that they are the senior partner in the successful missiles co-operation/ industry consolidation (cfr. copters?)
South of that line:
- ohh. Africa is there (but no direct threats) =France
The other sectors:
- 180 degrees = Canada & the US
So,, beyond this sectoral view, we come to
- the ME: who is there & where would we (even) want to be?
- South/ South East Asia... it's all in place. It is just about "carrying the burden".... oops! Some nations have critical dependencies on the region, but then again, you also have regional players in there. Some of them not stable, and some of them at odds with each other over (what seem to be ) minor issues
Ever-lasting truths: Multi-year budgets/ planning by necessity have to address the painful questions; more often than not the Either-Or prevails over Both-And.
If everyone is thinking the same, then someone is not thinking (attributed to Patton)
If everyone is thinking the same, then someone is not thinking (attributed to Patton)
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Last news: new Italian Navy LHD "Trieste" will be equipped with ski-jump !
So, ITS "Trieste" will be an LHA vessel, even VSTOL (F35B) carrier, to replace ITS Cavour, when not available.
So, ITS "Trieste" will be an LHA vessel, even VSTOL (F35B) carrier, to replace ITS Cavour, when not available.
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Read about the plans a couple of years ago, and one of the class was always going to be an "aviation" ship, so I read that as training, in addition to being a back up
- the other thing the plans had was a class of three; still the case?
- the other thing the plans had was a class of three; still the case?
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If everyone is thinking the same, then someone is not thinking (attributed to Patton)
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"Northrop Grumman is also providing the antenna which will receive data as well as transmit navigation instructions to the Global Hawks. The ground station will contain 22 operator stations as well as 11 trainee operator stations, a program source told Defense News."
In full operation, the station will be staffed by 400, of which a good number on a carefully crafted 2-yr rotation .
=> most NATO countries will have well trained analysts to use the outputs in the not so distant future
In full operation, the station will be staffed by 400, of which a good number on a carefully crafted 2-yr rotation .
=> most NATO countries will have well trained analysts to use the outputs in the not so distant future
Ever-lasting truths: Multi-year budgets/ planning by necessity have to address the painful questions; more often than not the Either-Or prevails over Both-And.
If everyone is thinking the same, then someone is not thinking (attributed to Patton)
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eagle spotters wrote:Last news: new Italian Navy LHD "Trieste" will be equipped with ski-jump !
So, ITS "Trieste" will be an LHA vessel, even VSTOL (F35B) carrier, to replace ITS Cavour, when not available.
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Last news/rumors talk about 1 LHA (Trieste) and 1 LHD (on similar hull but without carrier devices) to commissioning by 2021 (LHA) and 2025 (LHD) to replace Garibaldi, San Marco and San Giorgio.ArmChairCivvy wrote:Read about the plans a couple of years ago, and one of the class was always going to be an "aviation" ship, so I read that as training, in addition to being a back up
- the other thing the plans had was a class of three; still the case?
LHA is contractualised and all financed.
LHD is only planned.
But LPD San Giusto will remaining in service at least until the year 2026/2028 for a subsequent substitution, witk another one LHD.
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Thanks, the nice (and usual) 3-yr stretch at the end of the planning horizon
... let us see how things are then.
It is not only the economy; it is also the threats picture.
... let us see how things are then.
It is not only the economy; it is also the threats picture.
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News about PPA.
New integrated CIC+bridge = naval cockpit:
PPA, Light version
Rendering
(Light version is armed only with 1 x 127/64 Vulcano, 1 x 76/62 Strales and with X-band 4FF radar; 2 vessels already contractualised and totally financed; another 6 planned):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... BxDsiAnrIE
New integrated CIC+bridge = naval cockpit:
PPA, Light version
Rendering
(Light version is armed only with 1 x 127/64 Vulcano, 1 x 76/62 Strales and with X-band 4FF radar; 2 vessels already contractualised and totally financed; another 6 planned):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... BxDsiAnrIE
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LHA "Trieste" last update:
- Displacement f.l.: about 33.000 t
- lenght overall: 245 m
- lenght at sea level: 213,4 m
- width overall: 47 m
- widht with opne elevators: 52 m
- Width to flight deck: 36 m
- flight track lenght: 230 m
- flight track widh: 14 m
- 9 helicopters spot on flight deck
- hangar: lenght 107,8 m, width 21 m, high 10,7 (surface 2.200 m2)
- 2 elevators, eachone for 40 t ( 15 m x 14 m )
- well deck lenght 50 m, width 15 m, high 10 m (surface 750 m2) able to transport 4 LCM-1E types or 1 LCAC
- dry deck lenght 50 m, width 18 m and high 6 m (surface 900 mq)
- 1.600 linear meters for vehicles
- 1993 m3 aviation fuel (JP5/F44)
- proulsion system: CODOG
- 2 TAG Rolls-Royce MT30 by 37 MW eachone
- 2 propulsion dual fuel engines M.A.N. 20V32/44CR, 11,2 MW eachone
- 4 electric engines M.A.N. 9L32/44CR, 5,2 MW eachone
- max speed: +25 kn
- Complements: 460 crew + 604 marines componen (max 1043 + 21)
- NATO Role 2E (Enhanced) Hospital, with 40 beds and a 770 m2 surface
- Selex ES new CMS
- Selex ES C2 AAW system SAAM-ESD+
- Selex ES aircraft approach radar
- Selex ES DBR (dual band radar) AESA with four plate antennas, downgrade only to X band (FFBNW C-band radar)
- Selex ES LRR AESA in L band (FFBNW)
- Selex ES new multiband X/Ka fire radar
- Selex ES static IRST
- Selex ES Software Defined Radio
- Selex ES new IFF
- Selex ES Integrated Navigation System with multiband radars in X/Ka band
- MCC capability
- 3 X OTO Melara 76/62 mm Strales
- 32 MBDA VLS (FFBNW)
- 3 x OTO Melara 25/80 mm remote weapon system
- 2 x OTO Melara ODLS-20 (with 20 x 118 mm tubes and 4 x 130 mm tubes; with WASS C-130 and Black Scorpion ASW effectors)
- WASS Black Snake anti-torpedo system
- WASS Obstacle Avoidance Sonar
- WASS Bathy Termograph Unit
- WASS Diver Detection Sonar
For commisioning to Marina Militare in 2022, to replace San Giorgio (L9892) and Giuseppe Garibaldi (551)
http://difesa.forumfree.it/?t=71308561
- Displacement f.l.: about 33.000 t
- lenght overall: 245 m
- lenght at sea level: 213,4 m
- width overall: 47 m
- widht with opne elevators: 52 m
- Width to flight deck: 36 m
- flight track lenght: 230 m
- flight track widh: 14 m
- 9 helicopters spot on flight deck
- hangar: lenght 107,8 m, width 21 m, high 10,7 (surface 2.200 m2)
- 2 elevators, eachone for 40 t ( 15 m x 14 m )
- well deck lenght 50 m, width 15 m, high 10 m (surface 750 m2) able to transport 4 LCM-1E types or 1 LCAC
- dry deck lenght 50 m, width 18 m and high 6 m (surface 900 mq)
- 1.600 linear meters for vehicles
- 1993 m3 aviation fuel (JP5/F44)
- proulsion system: CODOG
- 2 TAG Rolls-Royce MT30 by 37 MW eachone
- 2 propulsion dual fuel engines M.A.N. 20V32/44CR, 11,2 MW eachone
- 4 electric engines M.A.N. 9L32/44CR, 5,2 MW eachone
- max speed: +25 kn
- Complements: 460 crew + 604 marines componen (max 1043 + 21)
- NATO Role 2E (Enhanced) Hospital, with 40 beds and a 770 m2 surface
- Selex ES new CMS
- Selex ES C2 AAW system SAAM-ESD+
- Selex ES aircraft approach radar
- Selex ES DBR (dual band radar) AESA with four plate antennas, downgrade only to X band (FFBNW C-band radar)
- Selex ES LRR AESA in L band (FFBNW)
- Selex ES new multiband X/Ka fire radar
- Selex ES static IRST
- Selex ES Software Defined Radio
- Selex ES new IFF
- Selex ES Integrated Navigation System with multiband radars in X/Ka band
- MCC capability
- 3 X OTO Melara 76/62 mm Strales
- 32 MBDA VLS (FFBNW)
- 3 x OTO Melara 25/80 mm remote weapon system
- 2 x OTO Melara ODLS-20 (with 20 x 118 mm tubes and 4 x 130 mm tubes; with WASS C-130 and Black Scorpion ASW effectors)
- WASS Black Snake anti-torpedo system
- WASS Obstacle Avoidance Sonar
- WASS Bathy Termograph Unit
- WASS Diver Detection Sonar
For commisioning to Marina Militare in 2022, to replace San Giorgio (L9892) and Giuseppe Garibaldi (551)
http://difesa.forumfree.it/?t=71308561
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Re: Italian Armed Forces
Today, 9 february 2016, laid down LSS "Vulcano" to Riva Trigoso Shpyards, in Genoa:
http://www.fincantieri.it/cms/data/brow ... 00711.aspx
On 16 february 2016, laid down bow section LSS "Vulcano" to Castellamare di Stabia shipyards:
http://www.fincantieri.it/cms/data/brow ... 00713.aspx
Displacement increase to 23.500 t
http://www.fincantieri.it/cms/data/brow ... 00711.aspx
On 16 february 2016, laid down bow section LSS "Vulcano" to Castellamare di Stabia shipyards:
http://www.fincantieri.it/cms/data/brow ... 00713.aspx
Displacement increase to 23.500 t
Re: Italian Armed Forces
Fincantieri Cuts 1st Steel of New LSS – Logistic Support Ship for Italian Navy
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=3574The steel cutting ceremony of the LSS logistic support unit’s bow section was held today at Fincantieri’s shipyard in Castellammare di Stabia. Construction works, therefore, officially started on the first unit, as provided in the renewal plan of the Italian Navy’s fleet, which has been commissioned to Fincantieri.
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Re: Italian Armed Forces
Navyrecognition shows an old LSS's rendering.
From Meretmarine the update last rendering.
Source, Fincantieri:
Look to our preview data:
- lenght overall, 181 m
- lenght at sea, 164,9 m
From Meretmarine the update last rendering.
Source, Fincantieri:
Look to our preview data:
- lenght overall, 181 m
- lenght at sea, 164,9 m
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Re: Italian Armed Forces
Last updates on PPA:
http://difesa.forumfree.it/?t=72169876#lastpost
PPA Light
- 2 ordered
- light displacement 4.500 t
- lenght overall 140 m
- lenght at sea 129,5 m
- width 16,5 m
- crew 90
- accomodation 187
- propulsion system: CODAG + electric engines
- 1 TAG requested for 32 MW (GE/Avio LM2500G4+ or RR MT30)
- 2 diesels engines (11 MW eachone)
- 2 electric engines
- max speed: about 34 knots
- cruise speed only on diesels engines: 25 knots
- cruise speed only on electric engines: 10 knots
- range 5,000/6,000 nm to 15 knots
- flight deck for 1 x AW-101 t
- hangar for 2 x NH-90 NFH
- 2 x +11 m RHIB (rigid-hulled inflatable boat) release and recovery lateral systems
- 1 x +11 m RHIB (rigid-hulled inflatable boat) fast release and recovery stern system
- new Selex ES open architetture CMS ( SADOC Mk4 )
- CMS with 20 MFC (FFBMW for other 8 ) + 2 Large Screen Display + 2 Tactis digital tables + 1 commander digital chair
- new Selex ES AAW C2 SAAM-ESD++ system for use with Aster 30 Block 1NT (FFBNW)
- integrated command cockpit (COC+ bridge)
- 2 x navigation dual band radar (X/Ka)
- 1 x new Selex ES multi-band fire radar
- 1 x new Selex ES DBR (double band radar) AESA four fixed plates radarDBR, only X band, FFBNW C band radar too
- 1 x new Selex ES IFF
- 1 x new Selex ES static IRST, simplified, FFBNW full versione
- Selex ES integrated communications system, simplified, FFBNW full versione
- Selex ES Software Defined Radio
- WASS Underwater Telephone
- WASS Bathy Termograph Unit
- WASS Diver Detection Sonar
- 1 x OTO Melara 127/64 mm with Vulcano extended range ammunition and AAHS
- 1 x OTO Melara 76/62 mm Sovraponte (over deck) Strales (new version with less ammunition and weight), FFBNW Vulcano 76 ammunition
- 2 x OTO Melara 25/80 mm remote weapon system
- 2 x LRAD
- 2 X OTO Melara ODLS-20 (FFBNW)
- 2 x MBDA VLS A50 for 16 AAW missiles Aster 15 or Aster 30 or Aster 30B1NT (FFBNW)
- 4x2 MBDA Teseo ASuW missiles (FFBNW)
- 2 X 324 mm triple torpedo launchers for WASS Black Arrow torpedos (FFBNW)
- torpedo automatic Handling system
- 2 X 533 mm torpedo launchers (FFBNW)
- 2 x multipourpose areas for transport up to 12 ISO1C containers (28 t eachone)
- 1 x 30 t crane
PPAs Light are expexted commisioning to Marina Militare between 2021 and 2022
PPA Light Plus
- 3 ordered
- light displacement 4.500 t
- lenght overall 140 m
- lenght at sea 129,5 m
- width 16,5 m
- crew 90+
- accomodation 187
- propulsion system: CODAG + electric engines
- 1 TAG requested for 32 MW (GE/Avio LM2500G4+ or RR MT30)
- 2 diesels engines (11 MW eachone)
- 2 electric engines
- max speed: about 34 knots
- cruise speed only on diesels engines: 25 knots
- cruise speed only on electric engines: 10 knots
- range 5,000/6,000 nm to 15 knots
- flight deck for 1 x AW-101 t
- hangar for 2 x NH-90 NFH
- 2 x +11 m RHIB (rigid-hulled inflatable boat) release and recovery lateral systems
- 1 x +11 m RHIB (rigid-hulled inflatable boat) fast release and recovery stern system
- new Selex ES open architetture CMS ( SADOC Mk4 )
- CMS with 20 MFC (FFBMW for other 8 ) + 2 Large Screen Display + 2 Tactis digital tables + 1 commander digital chair
- new Selex ES AAW C2 SAAM-ESD++ system for use with Aster 30 Block 1NT
- integrated command cockpit (COC+ bridge)
- 2 x navigation dual band radar (X/Ka)
- 1 x new Selex ES multi-band fire radar
- 1 x new Selex ES DBR (double band radar) AESA four fixed plates radarDBR, only C band, FFBNW X band radar too
- 1 x new Selex ES IFF
- 1 x new Selex ES static IRST, simplified, FFBNW full version
- Selex ES integrated communications system, simplified, FFBNW full version
- Selex ES Software Defined Radio
- WASS Underwater Telephone
- WASS Bathy Termograph Unit
- WASS Diver Detection Sonar
- 1 x OTO Melara 127/64 mm with Vulcano extended range ammunition and AAHS
- 1 x OTO Melara 76/62 mm Sovraponte (over deck) Strales (new version with less ammunition and weight), FFBNW Vulcano 76 ammunition
- 2 x OTO Melara 25/80 mm remote weapon system
- 2 x LRAD - 2 X OTO Melara ODLS-20 (FFBNW)
- 2 x MBDA VLS A50 for 16 AAW missiles Aster 15 or Aster 30 or Aster 30B1NT
- 4x2 MBDA Teseo ASuW missiles (FFBNW)
- 2 X 324 mm triple torpedo launchers for WASS Black Arrow torpedos (FFBNW)
- torpedo automatic Handling system
- 2 X 533 mm torpedo launchers (FFBNW)
- 2 x multipourpose areas for transport up to 12 ISO1C containers (28 t eachone)
- 1 x 30 t crane
PPAs Light Plus expexted commisioning to Marina Militare between 2023 and 2025
PPA Full
- 2 ordered (+ 1 expexted in 2016)
- light displacement 4.500 t
- lenght overall 140 m
- lenght at sea 129,5 m
- width 16,5 m
- crew 171
- accomodation 187
- propulsion system: CODAG + electric engines
- 1 TAG requested for 32 MW (GE/Avio LM2500G4+ or RR MT30)
- 2 diesels engines (11 MW eachone)
- 2 electric engines
- max speed: about 34 knots
- cruise speed only on diesels engines: 25 knots
- cruise speed only on electric engines: 10 knots
- range 5,000/6,000 nm to 15 knots
- flight deck for 1 x AW-101 t
- hangar for 2 x NH-90 NFH
- 2 x +11 m RHIB (rigid-hulled inflatable boat) release and recovery lateral systems
- 1 x +11 m RHIB (rigid-hulled inflatable boat) fast release and recovery stern system
- new Selex ES open architetture CMS ( SADOC Mk4 )
- CMS with 28 MFC + 2 Large Screen Display + 2 Tactis digital tables + 1 commander digital chair
- new Selex ES AAW C2 SAAM-ESD++ system for use with Aster 30 Block 1NT
- integrated command cockpit (COC+ bridge)
- 2 x navigation dual band radar (X/Ka)
- 1 x new Selex ES multi-band fire radar
- 1 x new Selex ES DBR (double band radar) AESA four fixed plates X and C radar
- 1 x new Selex ES IFF
- 1 x new Selex ES static IRST
- Selex ES integrated communications system
- Selex ES Software Defined Radio
- WASS Underwater Telephone
- WASS Bathy Termograph Unit
- WASS Diver Detection Sonar
- 1 x OTO Melara 127/64 mm with Vulcano extended range ammunition and AAHS
- 1 x OTO Melara 76/62 mm Sovraponte (over deck) Strales (new version with less ammunition and weight), FFBNW Vulcano 76 ammunition
- 2 x OTO Melara 25/80 mm remote weapon system
- 2 x LRAD
- 2 X OTO Melara ODLS-20
- 2 x MBDA VLS A50 for 16 AAW missiles Aster 15 or Aster 30 or Aster 30B1NT
- 4x2 MBDA Teseo ASuW missiles (FFBNW)
- 2 X 324 mm triple torpedo launchers for WASS Black Arrow torpedos (FFBNW)
- torpedo automatic Handling system
- 2 X 533 mm torpedo launchers
- 2 x multipourpose areas for transport up to 12 ISO1C containers (28 t eachone)
- 1 x 30 t crane PPAs Light are expexted commisioning to Marina Militare between 2023 and 2026 (third expexted for 2027)
http://difesa.forumfree.it/?t=72169876#lastpost
PPA Light
- 2 ordered
- light displacement 4.500 t
- lenght overall 140 m
- lenght at sea 129,5 m
- width 16,5 m
- crew 90
- accomodation 187
- propulsion system: CODAG + electric engines
- 1 TAG requested for 32 MW (GE/Avio LM2500G4+ or RR MT30)
- 2 diesels engines (11 MW eachone)
- 2 electric engines
- max speed: about 34 knots
- cruise speed only on diesels engines: 25 knots
- cruise speed only on electric engines: 10 knots
- range 5,000/6,000 nm to 15 knots
- flight deck for 1 x AW-101 t
- hangar for 2 x NH-90 NFH
- 2 x +11 m RHIB (rigid-hulled inflatable boat) release and recovery lateral systems
- 1 x +11 m RHIB (rigid-hulled inflatable boat) fast release and recovery stern system
- new Selex ES open architetture CMS ( SADOC Mk4 )
- CMS with 20 MFC (FFBMW for other 8 ) + 2 Large Screen Display + 2 Tactis digital tables + 1 commander digital chair
- new Selex ES AAW C2 SAAM-ESD++ system for use with Aster 30 Block 1NT (FFBNW)
- integrated command cockpit (COC+ bridge)
- 2 x navigation dual band radar (X/Ka)
- 1 x new Selex ES multi-band fire radar
- 1 x new Selex ES DBR (double band radar) AESA four fixed plates radarDBR, only X band, FFBNW C band radar too
- 1 x new Selex ES IFF
- 1 x new Selex ES static IRST, simplified, FFBNW full versione
- Selex ES integrated communications system, simplified, FFBNW full versione
- Selex ES Software Defined Radio
- WASS Underwater Telephone
- WASS Bathy Termograph Unit
- WASS Diver Detection Sonar
- 1 x OTO Melara 127/64 mm with Vulcano extended range ammunition and AAHS
- 1 x OTO Melara 76/62 mm Sovraponte (over deck) Strales (new version with less ammunition and weight), FFBNW Vulcano 76 ammunition
- 2 x OTO Melara 25/80 mm remote weapon system
- 2 x LRAD
- 2 X OTO Melara ODLS-20 (FFBNW)
- 2 x MBDA VLS A50 for 16 AAW missiles Aster 15 or Aster 30 or Aster 30B1NT (FFBNW)
- 4x2 MBDA Teseo ASuW missiles (FFBNW)
- 2 X 324 mm triple torpedo launchers for WASS Black Arrow torpedos (FFBNW)
- torpedo automatic Handling system
- 2 X 533 mm torpedo launchers (FFBNW)
- 2 x multipourpose areas for transport up to 12 ISO1C containers (28 t eachone)
- 1 x 30 t crane
PPAs Light are expexted commisioning to Marina Militare between 2021 and 2022
PPA Light Plus
- 3 ordered
- light displacement 4.500 t
- lenght overall 140 m
- lenght at sea 129,5 m
- width 16,5 m
- crew 90+
- accomodation 187
- propulsion system: CODAG + electric engines
- 1 TAG requested for 32 MW (GE/Avio LM2500G4+ or RR MT30)
- 2 diesels engines (11 MW eachone)
- 2 electric engines
- max speed: about 34 knots
- cruise speed only on diesels engines: 25 knots
- cruise speed only on electric engines: 10 knots
- range 5,000/6,000 nm to 15 knots
- flight deck for 1 x AW-101 t
- hangar for 2 x NH-90 NFH
- 2 x +11 m RHIB (rigid-hulled inflatable boat) release and recovery lateral systems
- 1 x +11 m RHIB (rigid-hulled inflatable boat) fast release and recovery stern system
- new Selex ES open architetture CMS ( SADOC Mk4 )
- CMS with 20 MFC (FFBMW for other 8 ) + 2 Large Screen Display + 2 Tactis digital tables + 1 commander digital chair
- new Selex ES AAW C2 SAAM-ESD++ system for use with Aster 30 Block 1NT
- integrated command cockpit (COC+ bridge)
- 2 x navigation dual band radar (X/Ka)
- 1 x new Selex ES multi-band fire radar
- 1 x new Selex ES DBR (double band radar) AESA four fixed plates radarDBR, only C band, FFBNW X band radar too
- 1 x new Selex ES IFF
- 1 x new Selex ES static IRST, simplified, FFBNW full version
- Selex ES integrated communications system, simplified, FFBNW full version
- Selex ES Software Defined Radio
- WASS Underwater Telephone
- WASS Bathy Termograph Unit
- WASS Diver Detection Sonar
- 1 x OTO Melara 127/64 mm with Vulcano extended range ammunition and AAHS
- 1 x OTO Melara 76/62 mm Sovraponte (over deck) Strales (new version with less ammunition and weight), FFBNW Vulcano 76 ammunition
- 2 x OTO Melara 25/80 mm remote weapon system
- 2 x LRAD - 2 X OTO Melara ODLS-20 (FFBNW)
- 2 x MBDA VLS A50 for 16 AAW missiles Aster 15 or Aster 30 or Aster 30B1NT
- 4x2 MBDA Teseo ASuW missiles (FFBNW)
- 2 X 324 mm triple torpedo launchers for WASS Black Arrow torpedos (FFBNW)
- torpedo automatic Handling system
- 2 X 533 mm torpedo launchers (FFBNW)
- 2 x multipourpose areas for transport up to 12 ISO1C containers (28 t eachone)
- 1 x 30 t crane
PPAs Light Plus expexted commisioning to Marina Militare between 2023 and 2025
PPA Full
- 2 ordered (+ 1 expexted in 2016)
- light displacement 4.500 t
- lenght overall 140 m
- lenght at sea 129,5 m
- width 16,5 m
- crew 171
- accomodation 187
- propulsion system: CODAG + electric engines
- 1 TAG requested for 32 MW (GE/Avio LM2500G4+ or RR MT30)
- 2 diesels engines (11 MW eachone)
- 2 electric engines
- max speed: about 34 knots
- cruise speed only on diesels engines: 25 knots
- cruise speed only on electric engines: 10 knots
- range 5,000/6,000 nm to 15 knots
- flight deck for 1 x AW-101 t
- hangar for 2 x NH-90 NFH
- 2 x +11 m RHIB (rigid-hulled inflatable boat) release and recovery lateral systems
- 1 x +11 m RHIB (rigid-hulled inflatable boat) fast release and recovery stern system
- new Selex ES open architetture CMS ( SADOC Mk4 )
- CMS with 28 MFC + 2 Large Screen Display + 2 Tactis digital tables + 1 commander digital chair
- new Selex ES AAW C2 SAAM-ESD++ system for use with Aster 30 Block 1NT
- integrated command cockpit (COC+ bridge)
- 2 x navigation dual band radar (X/Ka)
- 1 x new Selex ES multi-band fire radar
- 1 x new Selex ES DBR (double band radar) AESA four fixed plates X and C radar
- 1 x new Selex ES IFF
- 1 x new Selex ES static IRST
- Selex ES integrated communications system
- Selex ES Software Defined Radio
- WASS Underwater Telephone
- WASS Bathy Termograph Unit
- WASS Diver Detection Sonar
- 1 x OTO Melara 127/64 mm with Vulcano extended range ammunition and AAHS
- 1 x OTO Melara 76/62 mm Sovraponte (over deck) Strales (new version with less ammunition and weight), FFBNW Vulcano 76 ammunition
- 2 x OTO Melara 25/80 mm remote weapon system
- 2 x LRAD
- 2 X OTO Melara ODLS-20
- 2 x MBDA VLS A50 for 16 AAW missiles Aster 15 or Aster 30 or Aster 30B1NT
- 4x2 MBDA Teseo ASuW missiles (FFBNW)
- 2 X 324 mm triple torpedo launchers for WASS Black Arrow torpedos (FFBNW)
- torpedo automatic Handling system
- 2 X 533 mm torpedo launchers
- 2 x multipourpose areas for transport up to 12 ISO1C containers (28 t eachone)
- 1 x 30 t crane PPAs Light are expexted commisioning to Marina Militare between 2023 and 2026 (third expexted for 2027)
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Re: Italian Armed Forces
march 3, 2016 update on Italian navy PPA frigates
http://difesa.forumfree.it/?t=72169876#lastpost
(critical design review - CDR - extimated for february 2017)
source:
http://difesa.forumfree.it/?t=72204061#lastpost
For PPA frigates Italian Navy chose TAG GE LM2500+G4:
http://seapowermagazine.org/stories/201 ... e-ppa.html
PPA Full:
PPA Light
- 2 ordered
- light displacement 4.880 t
- full load displacement 5.900 t
- lenght overall about 143 m
- lenght at sea about 133 m
- width 16,5 m
- crew 90
- accomodation 171 (+60 extraordinary):
3 x single bed cabins
13 x double beds cabins
7 x four beds cabins
9 x six beds cabins
1 x 16 beds dormitory (+ 8 extraordinary)
1 x 20 beds dormitory (+ 10 extraordinary)
1 x 24 beds domitory (+ 12 extraordinary)
(+ 30 accomodations in optional containers )
- propulsion system: CODAG + electric engines
- 1 TAG GE/Avio LM2500G4+ setted to 32 MW
- 2 diesels engines (10 MW eachone)
- 2 electric engines (1,4 M eachone)
- 4 diesel generators (1,6 MW eachone)
- max speed: about 32+ knots
- cruise speed only on diesels engines: 25 knots
- cruise speed only on electric engines: 10 knots
- range 5,000+ nm to 15 knots
- flight deck for 1 x AW-101
- hangar for 2 x NH-90 NFH
- 2 x 9,4 m RHIB (rigid-hulled inflatable boat) release and recovery lateral systems
- 1 x 9,4 m RHIB (rigid-hulled inflatable boat) fast release and recovery stern system
- new Selex ES open architetture CMS ( SADOC Mk4 )
- CMS with 20 MFC (FFBMW for other 8 ) + 2 Large Screen Display + 2 Tactis digital tables + 1 commander digital chair
- new Selex ES AAW C2 SAAM-ESD++ system for use with Aster 30 Block 1NT (FFBNW)
- integrated command cockpit (COC+ bridge)
- 2 x navigation dual band radar (X/Ka)
- 1 x new Selex ES multi-band fire radar
- 1 x new Selex ES DBR (double band radar) AESA four fixed plates radarDBR, only X band, FFBNW C band radar too
- 1 x new Selex ES IFF
- 1 x new Selex ES static IRST, simplified, FFBNW full version
- Selex ES integrated communications system, simplified, FFBNW full version
- Selex ES Software Defined Radio
- FFBNW WASS Underwater Telephone
- FFBNW WASS Bathy Termograph Unit
- WASS Diver Detection Sonar
- 1 x OTO Melara 127/64 mm with Vulcano extended range ammunition and AAHS
- 1 x OTO Melara 76/62 mm Sovraponte (over deck) Strales (new version with less ammunition and weight), FFBNW Vulcano 76 ammunition
- 2 x OTO Melara KBA 25/80 mm remote weapon system
- 2 x LRAS (Long Range Acoustic System)
- FFBNW 2 X OTO Melara ODLS-20
- FFBNW 2 x DCNS VLS A50 (with 16 cells for Aster 15, Aster 30, Aster 30B1NT, CAMM-ER) or 2/4 VLS A70 (with 16/32 cells for deep stryke missiles)
- FFBNW 4x2 MBDA Teseo ASuW missiles
- FFBNW 2 X 324 mm triple torpedo launchers for WASS Black Arrow torpedos
- torpedo automatic Handling system
- FFNBW 2 X 533 mm torpedo launchers
- 2 x multipourpose areas for transport up to 13 ISO1C containers
- 1 x 20 t crane
PPAs Light are expexted commisioning to Marina Militare in May 2021 and March 2022
PPA Light Plus
- 3 ordered
- light displacement 4.912 t
- full load displacement about 5.950 t
- lenght overall about 143 m
- lenght at sea about 133 m
- width 16,5 m
- crew 90+
- accomodation 171:
3 x single bed cabins
13 x double beds cabins
7 x four beds cabins
9 x six beds cabins
1 x 16 beds dormitory (+8 extraordinary)
1 x 20 beds dormitory (+10 extraordinary)
1 x 24 beds domitory (+12 extraordinary)
(+ 30 accomodations in optional containers )
- propulsion system: CODAG + electric engines
- 1 TAG GE/Avio LM2500G4+ fitted to 32 MW
- 2 diesels engines (10 MW eachone)
- 2 electric engines (1,4 MW eachone)
- 4 diesel generators (1,6 MW eachone)
- max speed: about 32+ knots
- cruise speed only on diesels engines: 25 knots
- cruise speed only on electric engines: 10 knots
- range 5,000+ nm to 15 knots
- flight deck for 1 x AW-101
- hangar for 2 x NH-90 NFH
- 2 x 9,4 m RHIB (rigid-hulled inflatable boat) release and recovery lateral systems
- 1 x 9,4 m RHIB (rigid-hulled inflatable boat) fast release and recovery stern system
- new Selex ES open architetture CMS ( SADOC Mk4 )
- CMS with 20 MFC (FFBMW for other 8 ) + 2 Large Screen Display + 2 Tactis digital tables + 1 commander digital chair
- new Selex ES AAW C2 SAAM-ESD++ system for use with Aster 30 Block 1NT
- integrated command cockpit (COC+ bridge)
- 2 x navigation dual band radar (X/Ka)
- 1 x new Selex ES multi-band fire radar
- 1 x new Selex ES DBR (double band radar) AESA four fixed plates radarDBR, only C band, FFBNW X band radar too
- 1 x new Selex ES IFF
- 1 x new Selex ES static IRST, simplified, FFBNW full version
- Selex ES integrated communications system, simplified, FFBNW full version
- Selex ES Software Defined Radio
- FFBNW WASS Underwater Telephone
- FFBNW WASS Bathy Termograph Unit
- WASS Diver Detection Sonar
- 1 x OTO Melara 127/64 mm with Vulcano extended range ammunition and AAHS
- 1 x OTO Melara 76/62 mm Sovraponte (over deck) Strales (new version with less ammunition and weight), FFBNW Vulcano 76 ammunition
- 2 x OTO Melara KBA 25/80 mm remote weapon system
- 2 x LRAS (Long Range Acoustic System)
- FFBNW 2 X OTO Melara ODLS-20
- 2 x DCNS VLS A50 for 16 AAW missiles Aster 15 or Aster 30 (FFBNW Aster 30B1N and CAMM-ER)
- FFBNW 2 x DCNS VLS A70 to replace VLS A50 and to add another 2 x DCNS VLS A70 for 16 deep stryke missiles
- FFBNW 4x2 MBDA Teseo ASuW missiles
- FFBNW 2 X 324 mm triple torpedo launchers for WASS Black Arrow torpedos
- torpedo automatic Handling system
- FFBNW 2 X 533 mm torpedo launchers
- 2 x multipourpose areas for transport up to 13 ISO1C containers
- 1 x 20 t crane
PPAs Light Plus are expexted commisioning to Marina Militare in January 2023, October 2024 and August 2025
PPA Full
- 2 ordered (+ 1 expexted in 2016)
- light displacement 4.994 t
- full load displacement 6.200 t
- lenght overall about 143 m
- lenght at sea about 133 m
- width 16,5 m
- crew ?
- accomodation 171:
3 x single bed cabins
13 x double beds cabins
7 x four beds cabins
9 x six beds cabins
1 x 16 beds dormitory (+ 8 extraordinary)
1 x 20 beds dormitory (+10 extraordinary)
1 x 24 beds domitory (+12 extraordinary)
(+ 30 accomodations in optional containers )
- propulsion system: CODAG + electric engines
- 1 TAG GE/Avio LM2500G4+ fitted to 32 MW
- 2 diesels engines (10 MW eachone)
- 2 electric engines (1,4 MW eachone)
- 4 diesel generators (1,6 MW eachone)
- max speed: about 32+ knots
- cruise speed only on diesels engines: 25 knots
- cruise speed only on electric engines: 10 knots
- range 5,000+ nm to 15 knots
- flight deck for 1 x AW-101
- hangar for 2 x NH-90 NFH
- 2 x 9,4 m RHIB (rigid-hulled inflatable boat) release and recovery lateral systems
- 1 x 9,4 m RHIB (rigid-hulled inflatable boat) fast release and recovery stern system
- new Selex ES open architetture CMS ( SADOC Mk4 )
- CMS with 28 MFC + 2 Large Screen Display + 2 Tactis digital tables + 1 commander digital chair
- new Selex ES AAW C2 SAAM-ESD++ system for use with Aster 30 Block 1NT
- integrated command cockpit (COC+ bridge)
- 2 x navigation dual band radar (X/Ka)
- 1 x new Selex ES multi-band fire radar
- 1 x new Selex ES DBR (double band radar) AESA four fixed plates X and C radar
- 1 x new Selex ES IFF
- 1 x new Selex ES static IRST
- Selex ES integrated communications system
- Selex ES Software Defined Radio
- WASS Underwater Telephone
- WASS Bathy Termograph Unit
- WASS Diver Detection Sonar
- 1 x OTO Melara 127/64 mm with Vulcano extended range ammunition and AAHS
- 1 x OTO Melara 76/62 mm Sovraponte (over deck) Strales (new version with less ammunition and weight), FFBNW Vulcano 76 ammunition
- 2 x OTO Melara 25/80 mm remote weapon system
- 2 x LRAS (Long Range Acoustic System)
- 2 X OTO Melara ODLS-20
- 2 x DCNS VLS A50 for 16 AAW missiles Aster 15 or Aster 30 (FFBNW Aster 30B1N and CAMM-ER)
- FFBNW 2 x DCNS VLS A70 to replace VLS A50 and to add another 2 x DCNS VLS A70 for 16 deep stryke missiles
- FFBNW 4x2 MBDA Teseo ASuW missiles
- FFBNW 2 X 324 mm triple torpedo launchers for WASS Black Arrow torpedos
- torpedo automatic Handling system
- 2 X 533 mm torpedo launchers
- 2 x multipourpose areas for transport up to 13 ISO1C containers
- 1 x 20 t crane
PPAs Light are expexted commisioning to Marina Militare in April 2024 and August 2026 (third expexted for 2027)
http://difesa.forumfree.it/?t=72169876#lastpost
(critical design review - CDR - extimated for february 2017)
source:
http://difesa.forumfree.it/?t=72204061#lastpost
For PPA frigates Italian Navy chose TAG GE LM2500+G4:
http://seapowermagazine.org/stories/201 ... e-ppa.html
PPA Full:
PPA Light
- 2 ordered
- light displacement 4.880 t
- full load displacement 5.900 t
- lenght overall about 143 m
- lenght at sea about 133 m
- width 16,5 m
- crew 90
- accomodation 171 (+60 extraordinary):
3 x single bed cabins
13 x double beds cabins
7 x four beds cabins
9 x six beds cabins
1 x 16 beds dormitory (+ 8 extraordinary)
1 x 20 beds dormitory (+ 10 extraordinary)
1 x 24 beds domitory (+ 12 extraordinary)
(+ 30 accomodations in optional containers )
- propulsion system: CODAG + electric engines
- 1 TAG GE/Avio LM2500G4+ setted to 32 MW
- 2 diesels engines (10 MW eachone)
- 2 electric engines (1,4 M eachone)
- 4 diesel generators (1,6 MW eachone)
- max speed: about 32+ knots
- cruise speed only on diesels engines: 25 knots
- cruise speed only on electric engines: 10 knots
- range 5,000+ nm to 15 knots
- flight deck for 1 x AW-101
- hangar for 2 x NH-90 NFH
- 2 x 9,4 m RHIB (rigid-hulled inflatable boat) release and recovery lateral systems
- 1 x 9,4 m RHIB (rigid-hulled inflatable boat) fast release and recovery stern system
- new Selex ES open architetture CMS ( SADOC Mk4 )
- CMS with 20 MFC (FFBMW for other 8 ) + 2 Large Screen Display + 2 Tactis digital tables + 1 commander digital chair
- new Selex ES AAW C2 SAAM-ESD++ system for use with Aster 30 Block 1NT (FFBNW)
- integrated command cockpit (COC+ bridge)
- 2 x navigation dual band radar (X/Ka)
- 1 x new Selex ES multi-band fire radar
- 1 x new Selex ES DBR (double band radar) AESA four fixed plates radarDBR, only X band, FFBNW C band radar too
- 1 x new Selex ES IFF
- 1 x new Selex ES static IRST, simplified, FFBNW full version
- Selex ES integrated communications system, simplified, FFBNW full version
- Selex ES Software Defined Radio
- FFBNW WASS Underwater Telephone
- FFBNW WASS Bathy Termograph Unit
- WASS Diver Detection Sonar
- 1 x OTO Melara 127/64 mm with Vulcano extended range ammunition and AAHS
- 1 x OTO Melara 76/62 mm Sovraponte (over deck) Strales (new version with less ammunition and weight), FFBNW Vulcano 76 ammunition
- 2 x OTO Melara KBA 25/80 mm remote weapon system
- 2 x LRAS (Long Range Acoustic System)
- FFBNW 2 X OTO Melara ODLS-20
- FFBNW 2 x DCNS VLS A50 (with 16 cells for Aster 15, Aster 30, Aster 30B1NT, CAMM-ER) or 2/4 VLS A70 (with 16/32 cells for deep stryke missiles)
- FFBNW 4x2 MBDA Teseo ASuW missiles
- FFBNW 2 X 324 mm triple torpedo launchers for WASS Black Arrow torpedos
- torpedo automatic Handling system
- FFNBW 2 X 533 mm torpedo launchers
- 2 x multipourpose areas for transport up to 13 ISO1C containers
- 1 x 20 t crane
PPAs Light are expexted commisioning to Marina Militare in May 2021 and March 2022
PPA Light Plus
- 3 ordered
- light displacement 4.912 t
- full load displacement about 5.950 t
- lenght overall about 143 m
- lenght at sea about 133 m
- width 16,5 m
- crew 90+
- accomodation 171:
3 x single bed cabins
13 x double beds cabins
7 x four beds cabins
9 x six beds cabins
1 x 16 beds dormitory (+8 extraordinary)
1 x 20 beds dormitory (+10 extraordinary)
1 x 24 beds domitory (+12 extraordinary)
(+ 30 accomodations in optional containers )
- propulsion system: CODAG + electric engines
- 1 TAG GE/Avio LM2500G4+ fitted to 32 MW
- 2 diesels engines (10 MW eachone)
- 2 electric engines (1,4 MW eachone)
- 4 diesel generators (1,6 MW eachone)
- max speed: about 32+ knots
- cruise speed only on diesels engines: 25 knots
- cruise speed only on electric engines: 10 knots
- range 5,000+ nm to 15 knots
- flight deck for 1 x AW-101
- hangar for 2 x NH-90 NFH
- 2 x 9,4 m RHIB (rigid-hulled inflatable boat) release and recovery lateral systems
- 1 x 9,4 m RHIB (rigid-hulled inflatable boat) fast release and recovery stern system
- new Selex ES open architetture CMS ( SADOC Mk4 )
- CMS with 20 MFC (FFBMW for other 8 ) + 2 Large Screen Display + 2 Tactis digital tables + 1 commander digital chair
- new Selex ES AAW C2 SAAM-ESD++ system for use with Aster 30 Block 1NT
- integrated command cockpit (COC+ bridge)
- 2 x navigation dual band radar (X/Ka)
- 1 x new Selex ES multi-band fire radar
- 1 x new Selex ES DBR (double band radar) AESA four fixed plates radarDBR, only C band, FFBNW X band radar too
- 1 x new Selex ES IFF
- 1 x new Selex ES static IRST, simplified, FFBNW full version
- Selex ES integrated communications system, simplified, FFBNW full version
- Selex ES Software Defined Radio
- FFBNW WASS Underwater Telephone
- FFBNW WASS Bathy Termograph Unit
- WASS Diver Detection Sonar
- 1 x OTO Melara 127/64 mm with Vulcano extended range ammunition and AAHS
- 1 x OTO Melara 76/62 mm Sovraponte (over deck) Strales (new version with less ammunition and weight), FFBNW Vulcano 76 ammunition
- 2 x OTO Melara KBA 25/80 mm remote weapon system
- 2 x LRAS (Long Range Acoustic System)
- FFBNW 2 X OTO Melara ODLS-20
- 2 x DCNS VLS A50 for 16 AAW missiles Aster 15 or Aster 30 (FFBNW Aster 30B1N and CAMM-ER)
- FFBNW 2 x DCNS VLS A70 to replace VLS A50 and to add another 2 x DCNS VLS A70 for 16 deep stryke missiles
- FFBNW 4x2 MBDA Teseo ASuW missiles
- FFBNW 2 X 324 mm triple torpedo launchers for WASS Black Arrow torpedos
- torpedo automatic Handling system
- FFBNW 2 X 533 mm torpedo launchers
- 2 x multipourpose areas for transport up to 13 ISO1C containers
- 1 x 20 t crane
PPAs Light Plus are expexted commisioning to Marina Militare in January 2023, October 2024 and August 2025
PPA Full
- 2 ordered (+ 1 expexted in 2016)
- light displacement 4.994 t
- full load displacement 6.200 t
- lenght overall about 143 m
- lenght at sea about 133 m
- width 16,5 m
- crew ?
- accomodation 171:
3 x single bed cabins
13 x double beds cabins
7 x four beds cabins
9 x six beds cabins
1 x 16 beds dormitory (+ 8 extraordinary)
1 x 20 beds dormitory (+10 extraordinary)
1 x 24 beds domitory (+12 extraordinary)
(+ 30 accomodations in optional containers )
- propulsion system: CODAG + electric engines
- 1 TAG GE/Avio LM2500G4+ fitted to 32 MW
- 2 diesels engines (10 MW eachone)
- 2 electric engines (1,4 MW eachone)
- 4 diesel generators (1,6 MW eachone)
- max speed: about 32+ knots
- cruise speed only on diesels engines: 25 knots
- cruise speed only on electric engines: 10 knots
- range 5,000+ nm to 15 knots
- flight deck for 1 x AW-101
- hangar for 2 x NH-90 NFH
- 2 x 9,4 m RHIB (rigid-hulled inflatable boat) release and recovery lateral systems
- 1 x 9,4 m RHIB (rigid-hulled inflatable boat) fast release and recovery stern system
- new Selex ES open architetture CMS ( SADOC Mk4 )
- CMS with 28 MFC + 2 Large Screen Display + 2 Tactis digital tables + 1 commander digital chair
- new Selex ES AAW C2 SAAM-ESD++ system for use with Aster 30 Block 1NT
- integrated command cockpit (COC+ bridge)
- 2 x navigation dual band radar (X/Ka)
- 1 x new Selex ES multi-band fire radar
- 1 x new Selex ES DBR (double band radar) AESA four fixed plates X and C radar
- 1 x new Selex ES IFF
- 1 x new Selex ES static IRST
- Selex ES integrated communications system
- Selex ES Software Defined Radio
- WASS Underwater Telephone
- WASS Bathy Termograph Unit
- WASS Diver Detection Sonar
- 1 x OTO Melara 127/64 mm with Vulcano extended range ammunition and AAHS
- 1 x OTO Melara 76/62 mm Sovraponte (over deck) Strales (new version with less ammunition and weight), FFBNW Vulcano 76 ammunition
- 2 x OTO Melara 25/80 mm remote weapon system
- 2 x LRAS (Long Range Acoustic System)
- 2 X OTO Melara ODLS-20
- 2 x DCNS VLS A50 for 16 AAW missiles Aster 15 or Aster 30 (FFBNW Aster 30B1N and CAMM-ER)
- FFBNW 2 x DCNS VLS A70 to replace VLS A50 and to add another 2 x DCNS VLS A70 for 16 deep stryke missiles
- FFBNW 4x2 MBDA Teseo ASuW missiles
- FFBNW 2 X 324 mm triple torpedo launchers for WASS Black Arrow torpedos
- torpedo automatic Handling system
- 2 X 533 mm torpedo launchers
- 2 x multipourpose areas for transport up to 13 ISO1C containers
- 1 x 20 t crane
PPAs Light are expexted commisioning to Marina Militare in April 2024 and August 2026 (third expexted for 2027)
Re: Italian Armed Forces
GE to Provide Gas Turbines for Italian Navy PPA Hybrid Drive
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=3652GE’s Marine Solutions will provide the LM2500+G4 gas turbine that will power the Italian Navy’s new Pattugliatori Polivalenti d’Altura (PPA) multipurpose offshore patrol ships. The ships’ hybrid electric propulsion system also will use GE’s shock-proof MV3000 drives and a GE-designed electrical network of motors as part of the propulsion system.