Trident

[JayDee]

MPs to vote on Trident nuclear weapons system renewal

MPs are set to decide on whether to renew Britain's nuclear weapons programme in a Commons vote later.

In her first statement to parliament as prime minister, Theresa May will say it would be a "gross irresponsibility" for the UK to abandon its nuclear weapons.

Labour is split, with Jeremy Corbyn opposing renewal, but the party's MPs will get a free vote on the issue.

The SNP - which will oppose Trident renewal - had called for the vote to be delayed to allow "proper scrutiny".

The vote will decide whether to press ahead with the manufacture of the next generation of nuclear submarines.

Mrs May will emphasise her strong commitment to the plan, saying: "We cannot abandon our ultimate safeguard out of misplaced idealism. That would be a reckless gamble."

"The nuclear threat has not gone away. If anything, it has increased," she will add.

BBC political correspondent Chris Mason said the government was "expected to comfortably win the vote"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36820416

[arfah]

The Tories still have the majority and some of Labour are 'pro' CASD.

[Pseudo]

yeap and if there is no labour whip on the issue

There's no Labour whip because the party leadership does not support the party policy. Frankly, I've already lost patience with this shower of shits.

The Tories still have the majority and some of Labour are 'pro' CASD.

I reckon that the majority of Labour MP's are pro-CASD. I wouldn't be surprised to see the bill pass with the support of close to 500 MP's.

[marktigger]

the SNP want faslane converted into a conventional naval base

[arfah]

the SNP want faslane converted into a conventional naval base

Meet them half way.

Holy loch has already been shut down

[Pseudo]

the SNP want faslane converted into a conventional naval base

I look forward to seeing that happen at some point in the distant future. It'll at least mean that the UK government won't be footing the bill alone for redeveloping the site.

[ArmChairCivvy]

the SNP want faslane converted into a conventional naval base

I look forward to seeing that happen at some point in the distant future. It'll at least mean that the UK government won't be footing the bill alone for redeveloping the site.

Sorry to use my trade mark heh-heh here, but...

You mean the fishery protection vessels lie that low in the water that the crew can't walk onto the piers without a new (major) investment in gangways?

[arfah]

the SNP want faslane converted into a conventional naval base

I look forward to seeing that happen at some point in the distant future. It'll at least mean that the UK government won't be footing the bill alone for redeveloping the site.

I can't find the link (Thought it was in the Express?) but Lockheed-Martin UK bought the I.T. network that the Scots Govt uses.
The SNP are paying them in the region of £20m (give or take) per annum.

Lockheed-Martin is also a contractor at Faslane in support of the CASD.

[~UNiOnJaCk~]

MPs vote to renew Trident, 472-117: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36830923

[seaspear]

Perhaps the time may come to rebase the nuclear submarines ,SNP couldnt object even if it lead to loss of jobs

[SKB]

Theresa May says she would launch a nuclear strike:


Full Trident renewal debate:


The vote result:

[Pseudo]

MPs vote to renew Trident, 472-117: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36830923

Well, I was close enough.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the bill pass with the support of close to 500 MP's.

Also noteworthy is that in voting against, Corbyn voted against his publicly stated and incredibly stupid position of building new SSBN's but not arming them with nuclear missiles so as to maintain jobs at Barrow.

[Ron5]

MPs vote to renew Trident, 472-117: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36830923

Well, I was close enough.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the bill pass with the support of close to 500 MP's.

Also noteworthy is that in voting against, Corbyn voted against his publicly stated and incredibly stupid position of building new SSBN's but not arming them with nuclear missiles so as to maintain jobs at Barrow.

Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.

[Pseudo]

MPs vote to renew Trident, 472-117: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36830923

Well, I was close enough.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the bill pass with the support of close to 500 MP's.

Also noteworthy is that in voting against, Corbyn voted against his publicly stated and incredibly stupid position of building new SSBN's but not arming them with nuclear missiles so as to maintain jobs at Barrow.

Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.

Given the nature of the debate I think it turned out to be a reasonable horse shoe.