Type 83 Destroyer (RN) [News Only]

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Re: Type 83 Destroyer (RN) [News Only]

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wargame_insomniac wrote: 22 Jul 2022, 17:28
Dobbo wrote: 22 Jul 2022, 10:53 Personally the T83 programme is a test of what the country wants the RN to be over the next 20-30 years.

It it wishes to credibly and independently send a task force to take on and expect to defeat a Chinese or (to a lesser extent) Russian force, the T83 needs to be akin to a cruiser in all but name and delivered in sufficient numbers (in my view at least 8). This does not mean the country would do this independently, just that it has the ability to do so.

This means a large and capable ship which is fitted with and not fitted for but not with.

The AAW suite must be capable of engaging and defeating swarm attacks, a variety of hypersonic threats, and ballistic missiles. This is in addition to the traditional AAW role.

Further, the ship must be capable of shooting at other warships and at targets on land (this should be fine if the VLS takes relevant missiles in inventory) and it must have a credible ASW capability.

This is a big investment, as together the QEC, T26, T83 and SSN(R) form the high end fighting and power projection capability, and none of these systems are cheap.
I agree with 99% of what you said. But there is no way that RN will acquire 8 such large cruiser-sized ships. I hope for 6 but fear it may be just 4.
I agree on numbers - but if the fleet is to expand I think the number of T83 and SSN(R) needs to exceed the numbers of T45 and Astute.

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Dobbo Wrote:-
I agree on numbers - but if the fleet is to expand I think the number of T83 and SSN(R) needs to exceed the numbers of T45 and Astute.
It would need to be a c. 70% increase in numbers of both for me! :mrgreen:

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Re: Type 83 Destroyer (RN) [News Only]

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Scimitar54 wrote: 23 Jul 2022, 05:35 Dobbo Wrote:-
I agree on numbers - but if the fleet is to expand I think the number of T83 and SSN(R) needs to exceed the numbers of T45 and Astute.
It would need to be a c. 70% increase in numbers of both for me! :mrgreen:
Guys, lets move to escort thread. It is nothing to do with T83 news....

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