Tempest414 wrote:RunningStrong wrote:Tempest414 wrote:RunningStrong wrote:Tempest414 wrote:
We had a all electric minibus at a company I worked for ran well for 3 years then it needed new batteries which cost £3500 + £ 800 to dispose of the old ones electric cars make me laugh the batteries crap out after 3 or so and the batteries need special disposal in a few years the new problem facing the planet will be the millions of batteries from electric cars
So it did 100,000 miles in 3 years?
NO but it still needed doing
So unless it as something homebrew on lead acid batteries, then it was definitely still in warranty of 5 years and 100,000 miles.
I call BS.
Like it or not that is what happened this happened 6 years ago things maybe better now but two things remain first as old batteries need replaceing they will need special disposal second most of these cars will be charged from the grid meaning more power will need to be found and at this time that means more carbon or Nuc power
Now I am not saying that we can carry on as we are but cars carrying batteries that are charged from Nuc and carbon power is little or no better it is just kicking the can down the road
And the ignorant comments continue.
The only mass produced, OEM electric minibus that existed 6 years ago (and was on sale 10 years ago) was the Nissan NV200.
The National Grid, again release a report every year, and they've made it perfectly clear that there isn't a need to start building power stations because of electric cars. Most of which charge overnight when grid demand is low, and most people don't even need to charge every night because of how few daily miles the average driver does.
https://www.nationalgrideso.com/future- ... 0%20target.
Secondly, well to wheel efficiency of a ICE vehicle is about 15% by the time you extract, process, deliver and use. But even if an EV is run purely on fossil fuels it's already at 45% efficiency simply by avoiding inefficient combustion and refining. When you combine it with the low carbon energy on the UK grid (>50% of annual production), you get a car that is many, many times more efficient.
Do EVs take more energy to produce? Yes. But aside from the most coal intensive grids (Poland, American Midwest) the EV pays back the carbon deficit typically in 3 years or usage. Obviously a car with a large battery doing low miles won't, but equally a car with a small battery doing 20,000 miles overcomes the deficit much faster.
Please, do some research before you start making broad, baseless statements.