UK Defence & Aerospace Industry - News & Discussion

Contains threads on equipment developed by the UK defence and aerospace industry, but not in service with the British Armed Forces.
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As a complete layman on the subject, this to me looks more interesting than a lot of the systems I've seen on offer :-

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/rede ... e-mobility

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jonas wrote: 10 Dec 2021, 10:03 As a complete layman on the subject, this to me looks more interesting than a lot of the systems I've seen on offer :-

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/rede ... e-mobility
Looks promising

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Cammell Laird, arguably the best experienced UK shipyard to build non-military vessel, after the closure of Appledore. RV SDA was the first ship to be built there after re-establishing the shipyard. So, they lacked experience so they lost money.

BUT, again, now Cammell Laird, arguably the best experienced UK shipyard to build non-military vessel. They are much more promising than H&W Belfast, or H&W Appledore, only next to BAE Clyde, BAE Barrow, and Babcock Rosyth. UK must "grow" them up. Engineering is pretty much based on experience, not only technologies. Next order is needed there.


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Hmmmm...


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Can't say I'm personally that keen on Israeli defence companies making inroads to the UK...
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Well, there is plenty of room for new companies. In addition, it will make it more palatable to adopt Israeli weapon systems if this also support the creation of high value jobs. BAe has basically tided its future participation in the area of Ground based defence by joining up with Rheinmetall, and we have GD set up shop in Wales to manufacture and fit out the Ajax. DO we still have the capacity to design and develop small arms beyond specialists like Accuracy International? There is little if anything left of our home-grown defence industry with regards to ground warfare.

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Yes we seem to outsource everything in this county,I remember hearing a conservative MP years back suggest that we should just outsource all our food need from abroad because it would be cheaper ,must admit if they can get others to do it conservatives don't like anything in house ,so arms industry was just another example, just for note and fairness im definitely not a labour or liberal voter ,and never will be ,but yes if they can have nothing produced in this county and cheeper and not costing government money they would sell off ,think times have changed and now countries need to be more reliant on in house built/produce source.shame came to this to learn lessons

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AEI was also sold recently...

Add in Cobham....

And the proposed Ultra sale...

It's vandalism on a grand scale.
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BAE Systems in middle of dogfight between Saudis and Biden over oil

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... n-over-oil


>> troubled times for BAe...

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Some good news....it appears our Government is beginning to wake up...it's only taken decades...personally I think it doesn't go far enough, they should be forced to sell the remaining 14% as well...

This won't stop foreign competitors hoovering up UK competition though...the Government has no interest in stopping that...

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... r-producer

https://news.sky.com/story/chinese-tech ... k-12748989

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... inal-order

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Would say better late than never, but isn't it too late, now? Won't they already have had (and still have for some time until after they've appealed and sold up etc) the opportunity to take/copy/document the tech/info/data/IP etc....?

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The whole thing is ridiculous. Chinese owned Nexperia arguably own other more important semiconductor sites in the UK than the wafer lab. The wafer lab itself produces a tiny amount of not particularly special wafers. Now of course the might be sovereign capability requirements or secret squirrel stuff that the public aren't aware of if so then the government should buy it or at leas make a meaningful investment.

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