The RFI confirms that the British Army wishes to acquire an estimated 98 self-propelled guns to equip four Royal Artillery close support regiments, along with training and support packages.
“MFP’s rapid into/out of action times and mobility [will] ensure tactical agility, and [increased] survivability - making it very difficult for the enemy to kill,” the RFI specifies.
Initial objective requirements state the MFP should have a firing range of up to 80 km; a five-round multiple round simultaneous impact (MRSI) at 25 km, along with a sustained suppressive fire rate of 20 rounds a minute for up to 10 minutes; and STANAG 4569 level 4 protection standards. It should take 20 seconds to prepare to fire and another 20 seconds to leave once firing is complete.
It is also desired that the MFP can travel up to 2,000 km into an area of operations with 95% availability, although whether it is tracked or wheeled has not been specified. An objective requirement for the MFP is for it to be possibly transported by a C-130, although a C-17 is more likely.
These draft major user requirements could change as the MoD engages with industry.
Aethulwulf wrote:An objective requirement for the MFP is for it to be possibly transported by a C-130, although a C-17 is more likely.
mr.fred wrote:It looks like they are casting the net wide with the ideal, on the understanding that they won’t get it, but judging the balance of what is offered.
That said, some of it looks like a typo. 20 rounds per minute? That’s 1 tonne in shells alone. Over 10 minutes it’s more rounds than you’d be likely to have on the vehicle and the first supply truck.
20 RPM? Eeh, what's this cuckoo land they live in? Not even heavy mortars can reach that, light mortars just barely with proper procedures. Seems like you're shooting for the stars only to crash and burn.
RetroSicotte wrote:The requirements seem to not match up to any full ability. Things like Caesar aren't well protected enough, things like PzH2000 may not be fast/available/light enough, things like Boxer AGS much the same.
Simon82 wrote:How about the Swedish Archer artillery system? I understand that provides much better protection for the crew than Caesar, although no doubt there’s an associated weight and cost penalty.
RetroSicotte wrote:The Archer has seen a lot of doubt and pulling out. Makes me question what it really is like.
Lord Jim wrote:Basing the system on the Boxer makes sense, with a clean slate I would, as suggested have a Gun Module using the enhanced M777, but I would also develop a Ammo Module for a partner vehicle, similar to what the US Army did with the M109. For longer reach I would go with HIMARS but use the Armoured cabin version of the MAN truck already in use.
mr.fred wrote:Do you and I agree on something? Egad!
Lord Jim wrote:We need to make a step change in the weight of artillery we use with the 120mm Mortar replacing the 81mm weapon at Battalion level in most units and replacing the 105mm Light Gun with a highly mobile, possibly air transportable 155mm weapon.
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