Indian Armed Forces

[Lord Jim]

It is not going to be cheap to bring those ex French Air Force Jaguars up to the same standard of those already in Indian service. Theirs always had more in common with the RAF variant than the lower spec French one in everything from Engines to avionics, with the Indian ones being actually superior to the RAF when it came to the engines.

[SKB]

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 469224.cms

[xav]

That's a lot of rotary wing

Indian Navy issues EOI for 111 Naval Utility Helicopters

The Indian Ministry of Defence has issued Expression of Interest (s) for shortlisting of potential Indian Strategic Partners and foreign OEMs for the Procurement of 111 Naval Utility Helicopters (NUH) for the Indian Navy on 12 Feb 19.

https://www.navalnews.com/news/2019/02/ ... licopters/

[ArmChairCivvy]

That's a lot of rotary wing

At one point they were contemplating buying "a Wasp" and have not given up on building a "Marine Corps"

[ArmChairCivvy]

Now we will find a pair of nations trading at worse terms than WTO:
"He also confirmed that India would revoke Most Favoured Nation status from Pakistan, a special trading privilege granted in 1996.

Pakistan said it was gravely concerned by the bombing but rejected allegations that it was in any way responsible.

But after Prime Minister Narendra Modi said in a speech that those behind the attack would pay a "heavy price", many analysts expect more action from Delhi.

How did the attack unfold? The bomber used a vehicle packed with explosives to ram into a convoy of India's security forces on the heavily guarded Srinagar-Jammu highway about 20km (12 miles) from the capital, Srinagar."

[ArmChairCivvy]

Haven't realised that there are two lines of control; the Chinese having not pulled back after 1962:
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/768/cpspr ... 7086db.jpg

[Little J]

Indian seems to be getting closer to replacing the INSAS... But, I wouldn't count on it

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/201 ... for-india/
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/201 ... m-caracal/

[ArmChairCivvy]

getting closer to replacing the INSAS

RE: "What exactly will fill that role and enter production in India is not yet known, potentially a modernised AK variant. Indian media have also recently reported that a deal with Caracal for nearly 95,000 5.56x45mm carbines is to be confirmed soon, more on this here."
Put the two now announced quantities together and they recently procured as many box-std AK-47s.
- going that much "back in time" can only be explained by this intention to take a 'quantum leap':

"While the 7.62x51mm rifle and the CQB contracts combined amount to some 166,000 rifles and go some way to meeting the Indian Army’s urgent operational needs, it does not solve the larger problem of what will replace the INSAS and assorted AK-pattern rifles currently in service. In August 2018, the Indian Army published a request for information (RFI) requiring 650,000 ‘State of the Art’ 7.62x39mm rifles. The status of negotiations with the Russian government for the licensed manufacture of the AK103 is unknown. Recent reports suggest that the negotiations may be nearing completion and that the Indian government are looking to establish a partnership with Kalashnikov Concern to produce the newer AK203."

[ArmChairCivvy]

Looks like a done deal (today?)
https://www.businesstoday.in/current/ec ... 18782.html
but I would be surprised if there will be a lock-in to a round from the late 1940s
- perhaps that AK model can be easily rechambered?

[Lord Jim]

Well Kalashnikov themselves manufacture the AK design in many different calibres that use many of the same components.

[ArmChairCivvy]

In between we had the Indian border troops and PLA's men pushing each other to determine where the exact border line lies and now, after the Kashmir car bombing
"Narendra Modi, India’s prime minister, has promised a “jaw-breaking response”. Having boosted his nationalist credentials by ordering retaliatory “surgical strikes” across the Pakistani border following a similar attack in 2016"
- I wonder what will come next
- the 1999 Cargil War can provide some guidance?

[ArmChairCivvy]

- I wonder what will come next

THis https://news.sky.com/story/pakistan-sho ... t-11649515
could put a brake on sabre rattling?

[Monty1985]

The Indians are also claiming to have shot down a F-16, but the Pakistani Airforce are denying one was being used at the time. Nothing like muddying the waters further in this volatile situation.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-47383634

[abc123]

Shit...... Not good.

[ArmChairCivvy]

Could also put a full stop to the chest beating as if going on a bombing run is some kind of one way street, with a sign saying "Impunity starts here"?

[abc123]

chest beating

About beating, Pakistani civilians definitly did beat the crap out of that poor Indian pilot.

[ArmChairCivvy]

Not nice! Did the military rescue him?

When I was over there, the next year in those same hills 5 hikers were abducted. One escaped, 4 were much worse off and lost their heads.
- it is a difficult one for outsiders (and insiders?) to understand

[RetroSicotte]

Pakistani military has possession of the pilot. They say he's being treated properly.

Of course, what they say...

I wouldn't trust either side with any degree of care in this. Too much bad blood.

[abc123]

Pakistani military has possession of the pilot. They say he's being treated properly.

Of course, what they say...

I wouldn't trust either side with any degree of care in this. Too much bad blood.

Video of attack:


But yes, military rescued him.

[Lord Jim]

They really put their foot in it with the initial video release on twitter.

Until there is a Government strong enough in Pakistan to rain in the ISI, the country should be on the "Black list" of countries that support and/or harbour Terrorist groups.

[seaspear]

Some of the online footage shown of the downed Indian aircraft has also included parts identified as belonging to an F16 that was part of the order from Jordan that was identified through serial numbers , no word on the pilot

[RetroSicotte]

Some of the online footage shown of the downed Indian aircraft has also included parts identified as belonging to an F16 that was part of the order from Jordan that was identified through serial numbers , no word on the pilot

Been looking over them, yet to see any real confirmation an F-16 went down. Wreckage of a MiG-21 was shown a few ties being listed as "an F-16" when it patently was not.

Information war is in full swing right now.

[seaspear]

https://andrei-bt.livejournal.com/1152285.html
I borrowed this from another forum seems conclusive

[abc123]

Wreckage of a MiG-21 was shown a few ties being listed as "an F-16" when it patently was not.

Information war is in full swing right now.

Indians and their ususal circus...

[RetroSicotte]

Indians and their ususal circus...

You'd think they'd have remembered to remove the second engine from the photo first.