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You already talk about submarines but I put this little article anyway.

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articl ... -subs.html

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OMG :o :o

She's so f#@king thick !!! I thought politicians here were bad.

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I thought the UK defense committee was bad, this is cringe worthy. Makes you wonder how someone like that even gets in to that position. Maybe she should take a break and come back when she can construct a proper sentence.

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@8:12 "Izzit true thit pump jit su'marines kin only stay underwa'er f'r twinty minutes?"... :shock: :lol: :mrgreen: :twisted:

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For those outside Australia the perils of Pauline are frequent

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SKB wrote:@8:12 "Izzit true thit pump jit su'marines kin only stay underwa'er f'r twinty minutes?"... :shock: :lol: :mrgreen: :twisted:
That's sounds more like a kiwi accent, but the subtext is correct.

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The Fassmer OPV offering. Nice.


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Mercator wrote:The Fassmer OPV offering. Nice.


I wish Damen would offer the opv 1800, a lot of similar features

http://products.damen.com/en/ranges/off ... essel-1800

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Australian Minister for Defence Industry – press release

UK looks to CEA Radar for Navy
10 November 2017

The Minister for Defence Industry, Christopher Pyne today welcomed the announcement that the British Government will look at the feasibility of fitting cutting-edge Australian radar on future British warships.

The announcement made by the Under Secretary of State for Defence Procurement, Harriett Baldwin during her visit to Adelaide today is for a capability study to fit CEA Technologies’ ‘CEAFAR’ radar to British ships and it will begin early next year. The radar is already in-service with the Australian Navy.

The decision came after the Australia/UK Defence Industry Dialogue which took place in the United Kingdom last week. The partnership is seen as a vehicle for accelerating co-operation between the two nations.

Minister for Defence Industry the Hon Christopher Pyne MP said the announcement was an important follow up to last week’s dialogue and showed the continuing strengthening of defence industry ties between the two countries.

“Australia and the United Kingdom have much that can be gained from increasing cooperation around defence industry,” Mr Pyne said.

“A great outcome of last week’s dialogue, announced today, is the possibility of the cutting edge Australian CEA radars being used for the future UK Warships.

“Canberra’s CEA Technologies designs and manufactures advanced phased array radars for our Navy’s eight Anzac Class Frigates as part of their Anti-Ship Missile Defence Upgrade Program and the recently announced Long Range Air Search Radar replacement.

“The Turnbull Government has also mandated that Australia’s future frigates will have a CEA radar as one of its core capabilities.

“I’m excited by the possibility of sharing this great capability with one of our closest and oldest allies and the landmark export opportunity this presents for Australia’s burgeoning defence industry,” he said.

Whilst in Australia, Minister Baldwin also flew in an E7 Wedgetail airborne early warning and control aircraft and drove a Thales Bushmaster vehicle to deepen her understanding of these capabilities.

The meeting also discussed Australia’s soon to be released Defence Export Strategy; as well as the UK’s recently released National Shipbuilding Strategy.
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https://www.minister.defence.gov.au/min ... radar-navy

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The radar segment is a big deal, obviously. But there's also a lot of British ministerial folk who have visited E-7s lately, just quietly.

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Mercator wrote: British ministerial folk [who] have visited E-7s lately, just quietly
There is a (decision) fork in the road coming up soon as the AWACS upgrade prgrm that will start to deliver from 2023 (to non-US, parts of the solution are being tested all the time), is not cheap and obviously commitments are made years ahead of delivery.
- P-8 is not the same as the airliner models, I wonder if the Wedgetail was a direct derivative? I.e. how big would the synergies be from going to a 737-based fleet?
Ever-lasting truths: Multi-year budgets/ planning by necessity have to address the painful questions; more often than not the Either-Or prevails over Both-And.
If everyone is thinking the same, then someone is not thinking (attributed to Patton)


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How many OPV's are the RAN looking at purchasing?

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At least 12.

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Mercator wrote:At least 12.
original project scoop was for 20 vessels, replacements for Armidale's, Huon, Leeuwin and Paluma Class

have noticed that Austral does not have the MRV 80 on the website anymore, wonder if they have given up on a steel version of the ship

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What ships are the RN looking at fitting CEAFAR to?

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Who knows? You guys haven't said.

But if we choose T26, you get that one for free.

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Mercator wrote:Who knows? You guys haven't said.

But if we choose T26, you get that one for free.
that might be why they are looking at it :lol: :lol:

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So that would mean we put the CEAFAR on the T-26 and then put the Artisans on the T-31s. Sounds good to me.

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If the R.N T26 was to have Ceafar 2 with Aegis better still

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An interesting take on the Collins replacement project, RAN wants the first boats sooner rather than later

https://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-inter ... -submarine

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There was an interesting comment about the development of the "Short-fin Barracuda " in that the pump jet propulsion for the submarine may not be final, research suggest that this type of propulsion is efficient for nuclear submarines but submarines operating at slower speeds diesel etc. there is no advantage and would be better off going for a stealthy propeller .

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seaspear wrote:There was an interesting comment about the development of the "Short-fin Barracuda " in that the pump jet propulsion for the submarine may not be final, research suggest that this type of propulsion is efficient for nuclear submarines but submarines operating at slower speeds diesel etc. there is no advantage and would be better off going for a stealthy propeller .

there has been several bits of innuendo about this of late, I was under the impression that the pump jet was a power hog, I'm not a designer or naval architect ill defer to those who understand it more, just hope that they aren't reading the company brochure and being sold a pup

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