Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

[tomuk]

Because of the press coverage of recent failures/accidents.

Why do you think that press coverage of recent accidents, particularly the fire on board HMS QE, should cause red faces amongst the "Top Brass"

Where is the open and transparent press release from MOD to cut this off at the pass?

TEN sailors needed medical treatment after a blaze on the Royal Navy’s “cursed carrier” HMS Queen Elizabeth.

Medics treated the injured after fire ripped through mess decks and crew sleeping areas — destroying 100 beds.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/26728397/ ... e-sailors/

That was last weekend when it used sympathetic social media accounts to push a narrative of nothing to see here all normal move on as they have done on previous incidents with these ships.

Navylookout are at it again, nothing to see here then you get a reply saying

Took 7 hrs to extinguish. Junior rates accommodation affected fire spanned 3 sections c,d and e 6 and decks 7

[new guy]

Navylookout are at it again, nothing to see here then you get a reply saying

Took 7 hrs to extinguish. Junior rates accommodation affected fire spanned 3 sections c,d and e 6 and decks 7

If you watched the video on the sun it shows the footage with no fire damage beyond the compartment.
If you listened to the reporter he said that it was the water and smoke that spead vertically.
He also states the obvious of differening definitions of minor fire for the RN vs Civilian. a.k.a the fire did not damage her ability to sail so it was a small fire.
The UKDJ when they reported it they had no details and they were the ones who broke the story so I really don't think you could say they were "in a cover up conspiracy"
Nor Navy lookout either who used the correct definition.

[tomuk]

Navylookout are at it again, nothing to see here then you get a reply saying

Took 7 hrs to extinguish. Junior rates accommodation affected fire spanned 3 sections c,d and e 6 and decks 7

If you watched the video on the sun it shows the footage with no fire damage beyond the compartment.
If you listened to the reporter he said that it was the water and smoke that spead vertically.
He also states the obvious of differening definitions of minor fire for the RN vs Civilian. a.k.a the fire did not damage her ability to sail so it was a small fire.
The UKDJ when they reported it they had no details and they were the ones who broke the story so I really don't think you could say they were "in a cover up conspiracy"
Nor Navy lookout either who used the correct definition.

So where is the clear factual press release from MOD setting this all out. Instead we have tabloid vapours from The Sun and and DM and all sorts of nonsense on social media.

[new guy]

On the plus side. 100 crew get new mattresses, we now know the sprinkler system works and the ship is on its way to Rosyth for maintenance anyway.

NavyLookout is loyal to the RN but I think that shows up in more in what he doesn't report rather than how he reports.

[new guy]

On the plus side. 100 crew get new mattresses, we now know the sprinkler system works and the ship is on its way to Rosyth for maintenance anyway.

NavyLookout is loyal to the RN but I think that shows up in more in what he doesn't report rather than how he reports.

Exactly what I was about to say! Crew get new living spaces, not just mattresses, and new cloathes on the RN's expense for the ones damaged.



Navylookout is of course "loyal" to the RN.
It was originally called Save the Royal Navy.
But I would also say that they are the ones that have broken many stories of problems in the RN; HMS westminister, and many more.
I would argue they are the best incite into the RN. we have available.

[mr.fred]

Where is the open and transparent press release from MOD to cut this off at the pass?

How much information on the operational status of a British warship would it take for you to consider it "open and transparent"?
How much information do you think would be needed to "cut this off at the pass"?
Do you think that the top brass should have red faces as a result of this?

[SW1]

Where is the open and transparent press release from MOD to cut this off at the pass?

How much information on the operational status of a British warship would it take for you to consider it "open and transparent"?
How much information do you think would be needed to "cut this off at the pass"?
Do you think that the top brass should have red faces as a result of this?

Well it wasn’t operational it was broken and preparing for dry dock anyway.

Even if it was operational that’s not an excuse. Here’s how mod did it in the past when ships were on actual operations.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1004501.stm

“Eleven crew members have suffered minor injuries after a fire broke out on board the assault ship HMS Fearless in the Mediterranean. The fire started in the engine room at 0415 GMT on Thursday as the ship was undergoing exercises 150 miles off Sicily.

Crew members quickly extinguished the blaze and junior defence minister Dr Lewis Moonie has said that all the casualties have "fully recovered and are available for duty".

Their injuries were minor and they did not need to be evacuated

MoD spokesman
The ship was to have been part of the Royal Navy's Amphibious Ready Group being sent to support United Nations forces in Sierra Leon but will now sail to port for repairs.

Fearless, which has about 400 crew members on board, was en route to Malta when the fire broke out.

Nine of the injured suffered from smoke inhalation and two were treated for heat exhaustion, said a Ministry of Defence spokesman.

"Their injuries were minor and they did not need to be evacuated and they were treated on board."

Dr Moonie told the Commons: "The ship is being sailed under its own power to Malta where attempts will be made to repair it and inspect the damage.

"At present we are uncertain about how extensive it is, nor of how long the ship will be out of service, but of course it will be brought back into service as soon as possible."

[djkeos]

HMS Prince of Wales will be docking at Rhenus Deep Sea terminal, Tuesday 19 March, 2024 until Monday 25 March..

Located at Maasvlakte 2, so very near to Hook of Holland (see picture)

Links (in Dutch) : https://www.westlanders.nu/nieuws/maide ... aven-45486

and: https://marineschepen.nl/nieuws/Brits-v ... 80324.html

[serge750]

[SKB]

QE enters Rosyth... backwards!

(Jim Ramsay) 24th March 2024

[bobp]

HMS PWLS due back tomorrow ....

https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/defen ... th-4567690

[bobp]

And she is home....

[SKB]

PoW is home.

(Forces News) 26th March 2024

[Dahedd]

I've watched & read some shite about the carriers but this takes the biscuit. Absolute bollocks for the most part.

[Markam]

I've watched & read some shite about the carriers but this takes the biscuit. Absolute bollocks for the most part.

This guy absolutely makes my blood boil. He has umpteen different Youtube channels and this ingratiating voice, talking about so many different topics of which he has limited knowledge.

Youtube is a mix of mostly bollocks and the occasional good video.

For example of a decent video, I like this video as it breaks down things for Project Ark Royal;

[new guy]

The man above is notorious in not just UK defence field, Not just the international defence field, but also in basically every other place for being a absolute content channel which puts the least amount of effort into there video's to get as much videos out for more and more sponsorship's and add revenues.

Heck they even use bullshit AI images!

Ignore this channel completely and any other one with his face in it.

[Markam]

It is all very clever really what he is doing, he knows defence will get high clicks due to an audience that wants to be fed a certain type of content. Dissing the QE and much of British defence is all very in vogue because there is so much pessimism amongst British people regarding it. Reading comments on the UK Defence Journal can be quite depressing, the QE topics in particular.

I think all in all there is high potential for the carriers with some upgrades going forward as layed out in the project, plus some innovation in places like drone based AEW platforms that could be sold elsewhere in the world.

[SKB]

What an absolute cockwomble.

[js44]

His initials are SW

[sol]

For example of a decent video, I like this video as it breaks down things for Project Ark Royal;

Yes it is good video but basically it is just a video presentation of this article

https://www.navylookout.com/cats-traps- ... ed-drones/

It even use all images from it.

[Markam]

Yeah, I know. And that makes it a good video in the sea of crap. YouTube will always be an inferior medium to written research and analysis, but it democratises information and makes it easier to consume.

[SKB]

SW: "Chat GPT, halluncinate an 18 minute long script outlining the points of the Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier design based on left-wing media bias"...

[SKB]

EXCLUSIVE - HMS Queen Elizabeth's ski-jump ramp removed

HMS_Queen_Elizabeth_CATOBAR-conversion.png

(Royal Navy/MoD)

As part of the initial stage of the Royal Navy's envisioned Future Maritime Aviation Force (FMAS) programme, the 12.5 degree ski-ramp of HMS Queen Elizabeth has been successfully removed from the bow of the 65,000 tonne aircraft carrier, which is currently docked in Rosyth for propeller shaft correction works.

[Jensy]

EXCLUSIVE - HMS Queen Elizabeth Ski-jump ramp removed!
(Royal Navy/MoD)

As part of the Royal Navy's Future Maritime Artillery Force (FMAS) programme, the 12.5 degree ski-ramp of HMS Queen Elizabeth has been successfully removed from the bow of the 65,000 tonne aircraft carrier, which is currently docked in Rosyth for propeller shaft correction works.

Excellent. Finally fitting that spare, triple 16" turret they kept from HMS Rodney.

[jimthelad]

Had to check the date there! Good job on the photoshop though!