Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

[Ron5]

I am led to believe there will be some of the naval architects from T31 switching to QE at the very least.

To change a corroded shaft coupling?

*Potentially corroded.

Maybe they're looking at a completely new coupling. Stronger and easier to inspect. Be the smart thing to do.

Different to the ones on the other shaft and different to the ones on PLWS?

Ya think they're gonna drydock one shaft and not the other

[tomuk]

I am led to believe there will be some of the naval architects from T31 switching to QE at the very least.

To change a corroded shaft coupling?

*Potentially corroded.

Maybe they're looking at a completely new coupling. Stronger and easier to inspect. Be the smart thing to do.

Different to the ones on the other shaft and different to the ones on PLWS?

Ya think they're gonna drydock one shaft and not the other

Well of course both shafts will in up the drydock as they're attached to the same ship. The question is why waste time and money working on the other shaft if the fault is a simple one only on one shaft. There is prudent 'while we're in there' but also unjustified 'firing the parts canon at it'.
How complex is the issue? One line spun was there was nothing physically wrong with the coupling and she could sail but the risk assessment judged otherwise.

[Ron5]

I am led to believe there will be some of the naval architects from T31 switching to QE at the very least.

To change a corroded shaft coupling?

*Potentially corroded.

Maybe they're looking at a completely new coupling. Stronger and easier to inspect. Be the smart thing to do.

Different to the ones on the other shaft and different to the ones on PLWS?

Ya think they're gonna drydock one shaft and not the other

Well of course both shafts will in up the drydock as they're attached to the same ship. The question is why waste time and money working on the other shaft if the fault is a simple one only on one shaft. There is prudent 'while we're in there' but also unjustified 'firing the parts canon at it'.
How complex is the issue? One line spun was there was nothing physically wrong with the coupling and she could sail but the risk assessment judged otherwise.

Probably the kind of questions that would require the services of Naval Architects to answer. Duh.

[bobp]

HMS QE sailing up the loch to offload her munitions yesterday....

[tomuk]

I am led to believe there will be some of the naval architects from T31 switching to QE at the very least.

To change a corroded shaft coupling?

*Potentially corroded.

Maybe they're looking at a completely new coupling. Stronger and easier to inspect. Be the smart thing to do.

Different to the ones on the other shaft and different to the ones on PLWS?

Ya think they're gonna drydock one shaft and not the other

Well of course both shafts will in up the drydock as they're attached to the same ship. The question is why waste time and money working on the other shaft if the fault is a simple one only on one shaft. There is prudent 'while we're in there' but also unjustified 'firing the parts canon at it'.
How complex is the issue? One line spun was there was nothing physically wrong with the coupling and she could sail but the risk assessment judged otherwise.

Probably the kind of questions that would require the services of Naval Architects to answer. Duh.

One would hope that after the lengthy diving inspections and then onshore assessments that finally came down against QNLZ sailing that a plan of action would already be in place. Rather than a back of the fag packet 'lets stick her into Roysth and take a look at her '.

What is missing, which is a problem throughout UK defence establishment, is a lack of transparency. Everything is hidden behind all too convenient a veil of operational or worse commercial sensitivity. US senators and reps would be banging on the doors of the Pentagon\White House if a similar lack of transparency was tried in the US.

[Caribbean]

One would hope that after the lengthy diving inspections and then onshore assessments that finally came down against QNLZ sailing that a plan of action would already be in place. Rather than a back of the fag packet 'lets stick her into Roysth and take a look at her '.

What on earth makes you think there isn't?

What is missing, which is a problem throughout UK defence establishment, is a lack of transparency. Everything is hidden behind all too convenient a veil of operational or worse commercial sensitivity. US senators and reps would be banging on the doors of the Pentagon\White House if a similar lack of transparency was tried in the US.

I totally agree but in this case, I'm not sure the RN has much to say other than what has been said i.e. She's going into dry dock to check out the couplings and determine the best course of action based on those results.

[Jdam]

What is missing, which is a problem throughout UK defence establishment, is a lack of transparency. Everything is hidden behind all too convenient a veil of operational or worse commercial sensitivity. US senators and reps would be banging on the doors of the Pentagon\White House if a similar lack of transparency was tried in the US.

It would be nice to know but the Navy might think its giving ammunition to the press to use against them.

[new guy]

What is missing, which is a problem throughout UK defence establishment, is a lack of transparency. Everything is hidden behind all too convenient a veil of operational or worse commercial sensitivity. US senators and reps would be banging on the doors of the Pentagon\White House if a similar lack of transparency was tried in the US.

It would be nice to know but the Navy might think its giving ammunition to the press to use against them.

enough is already given

[bobp]

Just read the same in the Daily Fail...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -fire.html

More red faces for the top brass...

[Ron5]

Just read the same in the Daily Fail...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -fire.html

More red faces for the top brass...

Reportedly a fat fire in the mess galley.

[mr.fred]

More red faces for the top brass...

Why do you think so?

[abc123]

What is missing, which is a problem throughout UK defence establishment, is a lack of transparency. Everything is hidden behind all too convenient a veil of operational or worse commercial sensitivity. US senators and reps would be banging on the doors of the Pentagon\White House if a similar lack of transparency was tried in the US.

It would be nice to know but the Navy might think its giving ammunition to the press to use against them.

They don't need to give anything more, everything is very visible, if you want to see.

[Poiuytrewq]

Looking great.

[bobp]

More red faces for the top brass...

Why do you think so?

Because of the press coverage of recent failures/accidents.

[mr.fred]

Because of the press coverage of recent failures/accidents.

Why do you think that press coverage of recent accidents, particularly the fire on board HMS QE, should cause red faces amongst the "Top Brass"

[Tempest414]

Looking great.

Been away for a few days so just seen this but this is what POWs CSG should look like just with a few more USMC F-35's

[Poiuytrewq]

Impressive

[Tempest414]

Two things here for me first as said this is how we should use POW for the most part as a NATO flag ship with Allied escorts

Next the Amphib group looks more like what we should be aiming for

ITS Giuseppe Garibaldi , HNLMS Karel Doorman , RFA Mounts Bay

[tomuk]

Impressive

Does USS Paul Ignatius need an overhaul, seems a bit smoky.

[tomuk]

Because of the press coverage of recent failures/accidents.

Why do you think that press coverage of recent accidents, particularly the fire on board HMS QE, should cause red faces amongst the "Top Brass"

Where is the open and transparent press release from MOD to cut this off at the pass?

TEN sailors needed medical treatment after a blaze on the Royal Navy’s “cursed carrier” HMS Queen Elizabeth.

Medics treated the injured after fire ripped through mess decks and crew sleeping areas — destroying 100 beds.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/26728397/ ... e-sailors/

[Tempest414]

Fucking Sun what cu@t let this twat write anything " cursed carrier " pratt needs to go away and have a cold shower after getting so worked up

[bobp]

I guess QE will be out of action for a while, wonder who leaked this to the Sun.

[topman]

Probably bounced around whatsapp groups.

Someone leave their ipod on charge?

[SW1]

Because of the press coverage of recent failures/accidents.

Why do you think that press coverage of recent accidents, particularly the fire on board HMS QE, should cause red faces amongst the "Top Brass"

Where is the open and transparent press release from MOD to cut this off at the pass?

TEN sailors needed medical treatment after a blaze on the Royal Navy’s “cursed carrier” HMS Queen Elizabeth.

Medics treated the injured after fire ripped through mess decks and crew sleeping areas — destroying 100 beds.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/26728397/ ... e-sailors/

That was last weekend when it used sympathetic social media accounts to push a narrative of nothing to see here all normal move on as they have done on previous incidents with these ships.

[new guy]

Medics treated the injured after fire ripped through mess decks and crew sleeping areas — destroying 100 beds.

Apparently the 100 beds destroyed is from the automatic fire suppression system, a.k.a fire sprinklers a.k.a water damage.