Brexit - The UK's EU Referendum & Withdrawal

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Should the UK now withdraw from the Eurovision Song Contest ?!

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Re: Brexit - The UK's EU Referendum & Withdrawal

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Caribbean wrote: 16 Oct 2022, 20:58 I'm sure you are cock-a-hoop about that.

But he's wrong.

By the way - where did my last two comments on this thread disappear to?
Definitely not happy at all. Would be more “cock a hoop” if Lebedev & others of his ilk chose somewhere else to spend their money.

Maybe he is wrong, but Russians liking Brexit should make one pause for thought.

No idea about your comments. Are you asking whether I have spirited them away or is this a general question to the thread?

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zanahoria wrote: 16 Oct 2022, 22:21 Watch others, like France, Germany & especially the Baltic states step up.
That literally made me laugh out loud. The Baltic states will bust a gut to spend as much as they can, but their entire contribution is a week or so of the UK Defence budget. The others I have no faith in.
zanahoria wrote: 16 Oct 2022, 22:21 I like HM Charles III, but there’s no way he’ll enjoy the same same level of affection/soft power as his mother.
Let's see in 20 years, shall we? HM QEII was marvellous, but it took her quite a while to pin things down
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This is an interesting take on the NI protocol

https://www.briefingsforbritain.co.uk/l ... ocol-bill/

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it seems Brexit died this week under Sunak and Hunt from my prospective and news coming out that they are planning a Swiss style agreement with the EU

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/arti ... -dead.html

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d9a5 ... 0b7837d1cd

That would mean coming under the 4 freedoms again und like the Swiss being a rule tacker not a rule maker. I would have expected this under Starmer not Sunak seems he is not a true believer

What would the mood in the UK be like if this happens

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R686 wrote: 19 Nov 2022, 23:23 it seems Brexit died this week under Sunak and Hunt from my prospective and news coming out that they are planning a Swiss style agreement with the EU

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/arti ... -dead.html

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d9a5 ... 0b7837d1cd

That would mean coming under the 4 freedoms again und like the Swiss being a rule tacker not a rule maker. I would have expected this under Starmer not Sunak seems he is not a true believer

What would the mood in the UK be like if this happens
A “Swiss” deal is I would think joining the EFTA but not the EEA. As the swiss are the only member of the 4 EFTA nations that aren’t in the EEA none of which are in the political institutions of the EU. We set up EFTA in 1960 after all and if you interested in free trade but not the politics of the institutions of the EU then it’s were we should have gone in 2016 as it was always the most pragmatic landing ground.
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A mixture of things coming out here, not sure how much is correct and how much is remainers (in Government, Parliament, civil servants, media) pushing their own agenda.

The UK isn't going to accept the 4 freedoms, nor is the EU goin to budge on them, just as they didn't for May's Chequers proposals (Salzburg anyone?). Sunak will capitulate on many areas to improve the relationship with the EU and avoid a trade war. Some of this will include alignment. Many remainers will try to use that the establish a way back in...

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