River Class (OPV) (RN)
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Great photo essay from Cornwalllive. see https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornw ... es-5901184
Impressively inclined side wall. Of course, the OPVs are not specifically designed with high level stealth requirements, but "how small" the radar signature is interesting to know....
Can see the 20ft (or 10ft?) ISO container located on the starboard waist. Interesting it is painted with the camouflage pattern.
Can see the close-up view of the "top cover" over the lowered mooring deck. Looks like easy to walk on top. Can Wildcat/Merlin use this area also for landing? May be not, but want to know.
Impressively inclined side wall. Of course, the OPVs are not specifically designed with high level stealth requirements, but "how small" the radar signature is interesting to know....
Can see the 20ft (or 10ft?) ISO container located on the starboard waist. Interesting it is painted with the camouflage pattern.
Can see the close-up view of the "top cover" over the lowered mooring deck. Looks like easy to walk on top. Can Wildcat/Merlin use this area also for landing? May be not, but want to know.
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The French? Sailors lining up and shouting bang would have them runningLord Jim wrote:Putting a couple of LMMs on one would also be nice, especially if any French Fishermen get feisty!
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Donald-san, not sure where you mean.donald_of_tokyo wrote:Can see the close-up view of the "top cover" over the lowered mooring deck. Looks like easy to walk on top. Can Wildcat/Merlin use this area also for landing? May be not, but want to know.
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Or throwing bars of soap at them.Ron5 wrote:The French? Sailors lining up and shouting bang would have them running
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Sorry. There is a man onboard HMS Tamar in this photo. To his left (of near his right foot), there shall be "a ~1 m deep deck" at the two corners of the flight deck, filled with mooring gears. In other words, the two "holes" opening above the "Tamar" name. In this photo, its is covered by the metal plate (with many holes).Ron5 wrote:Donald-san, not sure where you mean.donald_of_tokyo wrote:Can see the close-up view of the "top cover" over the lowered mooring deck. Looks like easy to walk on top. Can Wildcat/Merlin use this area also for landing? May be not, but want to know.
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Thanks. My guess is that's nothing more than a safety grid to stop poor matelots falling in and breaking their legs.donald_of_tokyo wrote:Sorry. There is a man onboard HMS Tamar in this photo. To his left (of near his right foot), there shall be "a ~1 m deep deck" at the two corners of the flight deck, filled with mooring gears. In other words, the two "holes" opening above the "Tamar" name. In this photo, its is covered by the metal plate (with many holes).Ron5 wrote:Donald-san, not sure where you mean.donald_of_tokyo wrote:Can see the close-up view of the "top cover" over the lowered mooring deck. Looks like easy to walk on top. Can Wildcat/Merlin use this area also for landing? May be not, but want to know.
I wonder if we will see the same on the T26 & T31.
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Isn't that part of the system to allow helicopters to land securely in bad weather, the Canadians call it "Bear Trap", I think. The helicopter has a probe that locks the helicopter to the grid during landing and before take off. Very useful with a small flight deck like on the B2s. Might be wrong as always though.
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Sorry, I was not clear enough.Lord Jim wrote:Isn't that part of the system to allow helicopters to land securely in bad weather, the Canadians call it "Bear Trap", I think. The helicopter has a probe that locks the helicopter to the grid during landing and before take off. Very useful with a small flight deck like on the B2s. Might be wrong as always though.
The "metal plates with holes" in the middle of the flightdeck is, the grid for the "harpoon" system, to hold the helicopter. (BearTrap is similar idea, but with different implementation). My question was on the edge of the flight deck, not in the middle.
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(Navy Lookout) 24th September 2021
HMS Severn arrives in Portsmouth - currently hosting the Fleet Navigating Course. She was painted in the new "Western Approaches WWII" camouflage scheme during her recent maintenance period in Falmouth. Video: Portsmouth Proud
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HMS Medway meets with HMS Spey and Tamar at Caribbean sea. Three River B2 in action together.
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HMS Tamar in Curacao in the Southern Caribbean. Beautiful shot.
PS now it is clear that the ISO container on the starboard waist is 20t long.
PS now it is clear that the ISO container on the starboard waist is 20t long.
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”We have no eternal allies, and we have no perpetual enemies. Our interests are eternal and perpetual, and those interests it is our duty to follow." - Lord Palmerston
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HMS Trent bound for West Africa. Note she has an ISO container on her flight deck, not on waist. No plan to fully use her flight deck (although she can move it easily with her crane).
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River class needs a new designation. OPV doesn't do it any more.
How abour LRICOFPV?
"long-range inter-continental offshore fisheries protection vessel" ?!
How abour LRICOFPV?
"long-range inter-continental offshore fisheries protection vessel" ?!
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More important than a helicopter when chasing pirates?????Tempest414 wrote:more important is she has a RM embarked force
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Well a helicopter might help locate any Pirates but that may be all with possible ROE, no using the .50cal to hose a suspected boat for example. Marines in a RHIB though can certainly upset any pirates as well as create a narrative that make Pirates stay well away form any area a River B2 might be in because of the RMs.
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Completely agree - but would rather go for Global SloopSKB wrote:River class needs a new designation. OPV doesn't do it any more.
How abour LRICOFPV?
"long-range inter-continental offshore fisheries protection vessel" ?!
”We have no eternal allies, and we have no perpetual enemies. Our interests are eternal and perpetual, and those interests it is our duty to follow." - Lord Palmerston
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if the B2's could embark a helicopter it might be a close run thing however they don't this being said the current UOR for a VL- UAV may go someway to giving the B2's a wider reachRon5 wrote:More important than a helicopter when chasing pirates?????Tempest414 wrote:more important is she has a RM embarked force
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Who said it had to be a manned helicopter?Tempest414 wrote:if the B2's could embark a helicopter it might be a close run thing however they don't this being said the current UOR for a VL- UAV may go someway to giving the B2's a wider reachRon5 wrote:More important than a helicopter when chasing pirates?????Tempest414 wrote:more important is she has a RM embarked force
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A slack handful of guys in a rubber boat vs a helicopter?? You serious?Lord Jim wrote:Well a helicopter might help locate any Pirates but that may be all with possible ROE, no using the .50cal to hose a suspected boat for example. Marines in a RHIB though can certainly upset any pirates as well as create a narrative that make Pirates stay well away form any area a River B2 might be in because of the RMs.
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in the recent £17m bust by RFA wave knight, in the Caribbean, the helicopter found the boat and the RHIB-full of USCG law-enforcement did the apprehending (USCG presumably because it was in international waters - it would be RN in a BOT EEZ/ territorial waters , I believe). I think both helo and RHIB have their parts to play
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